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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
perhaps the greatest falsification of the flood.
imagine, a creationist, or YEC more specifically, would have to support evolution in order to defend something that is supposed to discount evolution as false. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
what???
are the written records you referring to the noah's ark feasability study? or the bible? where are those reports, I want to read them? All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
why would you expect to see the common ancestor(s) living today? they might be, a very small chance that they might be. as to the fossil record--you ever try to fossilize bacteria? the oldest fossils we have are what they left behind, the stromatolites (possibly mispelled).
so if the ToE is actually false, then what alternative is their?afterall, I don't think you can say that the nested hierarchy is evidence of design or creation, because then you would have to know god's purpose (or the designer's) for making it appear that way. and god forbid we know his purpose. at least the ToE can predict such a nested hierarchy. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
to bad i can't stand toolbars.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
not as an insult, mind you, but do you know how to do quote boxes?
it would help make your post more readable. if you don't here's how [q s]text to be quoted[/q s]text to be quoted just leave out the space inbetween the q and s. I did it so the formatting sytle would show. the other quote box is this [qoute]text to be quoted[/qouted]quote: just spell quote correctly, and you get the bottom one. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
Did I say that all went extinct? Did I say that all did not leave fossils? I don't think so.
There are living common ancestors, but those splits are young, like with us and chimps and bonobos. Us, and bononbos having split from chimps, and you know what, the chimps are still there. You're asking for a 3.5 billion year old common ancestor(s) to still be living. Now then, as to the fossils. If smaller things are more fragile, and fragile things fossilize less easily (like the odds of finding hummingbird fossils--they've been found, but not very many compared to larger, more robust animals). Bacteria an other single-cell organisms are incredibly small. So the first problem, if they did fossilize, would be finding them. Damn near impossible. It's easier to find thier leftovers, much like finding fossilized worm tunnels is easier to find than finding worm fossils. And consider the probablitly of finding a 3.5 billion year old fossil--nigh on impossible. why? You need rock that old, and there aren't too many places in the world with rock that old. so very little of what may have been fossilized is left, and what could have been fozzilized most likely wasn't that much to begin with. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
I can tell you the name of the earliest known ancestor to apes and man is Dryopithecus. roughly 12 to 9 million years old. Further back than that, we have the fossil of Kamoyapithecus, the earliest known Old world monkey, and the one that right now is the ancestor to the apes (and man) and the current old world monkeys, so long as I'm reading it right. Neither of them are living. The only living common ancestor I know of is between us, chimps, and bononbos. We and the bonobos split from the chimps, but at different times.
The living common ancestor you want is more than 20 million years old, and dead. like I said, most living ancestors are from recent splits. oh, and my source is wikipedia.org, under human evolution. (in the search I typed in hominid)Human evolution - Wikipedia All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
i'm hoping you read my previous post about quoting--it'll really help me, and others too I'd say, to understand exactly what you're saying. format is good, a good format is better.
one warnging though--for Faith, none of that dating matters. afterall, there was the fall, and everything before the fall we won't know how physics, etc behaved, and everything after the fall is corrupted, and can't be trusted (except the bible, or course). just a warning All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
cool. I'll take this to mean that you found my post to you with the two quote formats (i think it was in the 65-69 range)
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
thanks for that correction. about the bonobos and chimps and us.
I just want to see if I got your tree right. _________________unkown ancestor______________human____________chimp __________________________chimps____bonobos ??are there any guesses as to who the unkown is? edit it in to the post I'm replying to, if you know of a place I can look. it's probably not a good idea to continue in this off topic vein. Edited by kuresu, : No reason given. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
well, i didn't say to hit the peek, but I shoed the format, and told about the error I purposely put in, hoping that would work.
oh well . . . ABE:the original thing was in Message 63 message 63. Edited by kuresu, : No reason given. Edited by AdminJar, : Use peek All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
you're forgettin one, simple explanation. See, the flood happened in the (ante diluvian?)--no it was after the fall, so post diluvian (or is it the fall?)
At any rate, this means that 4500ish years ago, Pangea was still together. Never mind the fact that they have the tectonic plates moving to hteri current position in 500 years, but that's how you can get the monarchs to N. America. Oh, the mental acrobatics they must perform. All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
you do too.
Isn't albany the capital of new york? All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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