lol i obviously wasnt taking myself as seriously as you
Heh - maybe, but it's important to be clear about consent and 'not complaining' because the conversation so often turns to animals and children and clarifying that consent is different than...oh, too late.
I'm not going to finger-point (much) about the...not so recent acitivies...that have only
recently come to light regarding certain practitioners and members of a certain sect of one of the biggest religions in the world and their moral indescretions and the activity keeping it out of the limelight...but if you're going to point and gasp about "sexual perversions", there's a whole world of difference between "safe, sane and legal" and, well, not.
However Peg's point does raise a very, very good point.
Certain activities carried a death sentence (or at least a sentence) for what could legally be called "masturbation with owned property" because the objects in question happened to be...of a different class.
For example (and yes, this is going to get somewhat beyond PG13 in the next few words - so stop reading now if you're squeamish) dead bodies and animals.
A body is legally property, it's certainly no longer a living person - and there was a legal case a while ago (I believe in the USA) where somebody was tried for...that (yuck! I can't express how much wrong that contains) and said person's defence was "this is my property".
Animals too have been considered legally objects, property, so why is there a legal issue with...that?
Personally...shudder...but still the question remains.