hooah writes:
if we believe any of the bible, (psst: I don't) even this would lean towards this jesus fella being born in spring at best.
So what we have is a random date, chosen by the romans/catholic church, in an effort to supress the pagans and/or make it easier to convert them. Either way, it is an act of deceipt.
How, again, is x-mas a religious holiday? (technically speaking)
Hi Hooah. Though Constantine the Great reigned in the 4th century, he had a lot to do with the origin of Christmas.
The nativity was not celebrated until the 4th century. The time of the birth of Jesus was/is not known.
As the Roman emperors did, Constantine worshipped the Roman gods. The sun god, Sol was one of the most notable pagan Gods.
Before Constantine defeated the most powerful rival, an Italian, Maxentius, as he was worshipping the sun, he had a vision of a cross of Christ in the sun with the inscription in Latin, "in this sign you shall conquer." He won the battle and attributed his victory to Christianity due to the vision.
About a year later he signed the Edict Of Milan which edicted rights be granted to all religions. He became a Christian and interspersed many of the pagan rituals into Christianity, essentially establishing this religious conglomerate of paganism and Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire. Constantine became head/pontifix maximus of both church and state. From this emerged the Roman Catholic Church.
Two pagan winter festivals were celebrated, one honoring Mithras, Persian god of light which began on Dec 25th and ending Jan 1. He interspersed the nativity of Jesus into the festivals related to the pagan celebration. Thus the Christian holiday of Dec 25.
As others have suggested, most Christians simply attribute the date to the recognition of the birth of Jesus. The communion remembrance of the death of Jesus for the sins of the world, however is the only
celebration that the Bible officially sanctioned.
Santa
St Nicholas was also derived from the RCC, as I understand.
ABE: I've said the above to agree that the
Christ-mass celebration is indeed derived from paganism. As well, that explains some of the paganistic aspects of Roman Catholicism, some of which have interspersed into the protestant faiths to a greater or lesser extent.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.
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