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nator
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Message 132 of 165 (129289)
08-01-2004 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by johnfolton
06-22-2004 12:20 AM


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don't eat lobster, shrimp, clams, catfish, shark, etc...however once your offspring develop a genetic disease cause you ate shrimp, clams, lobster, and all those other unclean creatures in exotic foods, don't blame God, cause he said these creatures are unclean to eat
What about genetic diseases which are caused by copying mistakes, or extra or missing chromosomes, like Down's Syndrome?
Those have nothing to do with diet.

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nator
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Message 133 of 165 (129290)
08-01-2004 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by johnfolton
06-23-2004 2:16 AM


Re: Last Post of Lower Back.
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heard someone that was double jointed was helped by this type of treatment, now thats quite awesome, if true???
There's no such thing as being "double jointed".
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I still believe the different kinds came from God, and the sub species common ancestors are these different kinds created by their common creator.
How can I tell the difference between various "kinds"?
Are humans and chimps the same "kind"?
Are my housecat and Bengal tigers the same "kind"?
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Raz, I suppose to an atheist the intelligence to the different kinds genetic designs would have to be caused by an alien intelligence,
Um, no.
Natural processes/physics/chemistry/biology is adequate.
No need to invoke the supernatural of any kind.
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and that is kind of interesting, how easily they can believe in aliens, and not in God.
Do me a favor.
Go to Home - American Atheists and find anything there which mentions how atheists think that genetic anything is caused by aliens.
Then come back here and tell me all about it.

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nator
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Message 134 of 165 (129292)
08-01-2004 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by lfen
07-29-2004 2:44 AM


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If thought is knowledge than all we know is the map.
But thought isn't just knowledge.
Thought is perception and conception, too.
We construct thought in the brain, we don't "record and replay."
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Take your computer programs. They have maps, addresses, routine calls that is what they know and that is how they function and they reference that. But something is happening that they don't know about at all. Electron gates are functioning for example as well as devices. The programs don't understand or know anything about that, they just know data in registers. The mind is something like that. It doesn't have a clue what really is. It knows numbers, maps, concepts.
OK, so the mind doesn't know about neurons, except in an indirect way.
So what?

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Message 135 of 165 (129295)
08-01-2004 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by dandon83
08-01-2004 5:52 AM


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Your website does not prove anything at all regarding science and the Koran.
It is nothing but a bunch of very stretched, labored interpretations of very simple words and phrases from the Koran.
When I clicked on the link "chlorophyll", I expected to learn about how the Koran includes a remarkable explanation of the biochemistry of plants.
Instead, I find out that the authors interpret a single word, "green", in reference to instructions on harvesting crops, as indicating a description of chlorophyll.
It is completely absurd.

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