Summations Only

catholic scientist writes:It retains its value, but as well as it not mattering that whether the Christian bible is literally true, it means that it doesn't even matter if you don't use the bible at all - more or less any religious book will do. In fact it doesn't even need to be religious, try the European declaration on Human Rights or even this one:"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal etc"

you writes: It retains its value, but as well as it not mattering that whether the Christian bible is literally true, it means that it doesn't even matter if you don't use the bible at all - more or less any religious book will do.

Thank heavens you started this thread. I had to be away from this site for a few weeks but, I wanted to start a thread about trying to get you to leave this site. I was worried that in my absense the subject wouldn't be brought up. Thankfully you had enough self-awareness to realize it's time for you to go. Scary that we were both thinking the same thing. I guess your inner self hate is equal to the outer hate I have for you.Honestly I don't know why anyone is sugar coating it for you? I for one totally despise you. It keeps me awake at night sometimes, wondering how someone like you can believe what you believe without evidence and then have the balls to type it out here into words on this forum all willy nilly. Seriously, the nerve of you. To believe it is one thing, but to type it out is just uncalled for.I would not consider you Forrest Gump though, because I highly doubt you have a successful shrimping company or that you can run as well as that man. You'd be more along the lines of Ned Flanders, I think. Because I imagine you're the kind of guy who can rock a sweet mustache.In closing, beat it.- Oni

You've talked yourself full circle. As we don't need the bible for morality, it's loss can not matter to that morality. And as there is nothing absolute in the bible anyway your point is doubly mute

We've traveled above the sky and discovered no firmament, no heaven and comparatively little water. Is Christianity therefore worthless?

Maybe he meant the types of creationist one? I can't exactly tell, but that one seemed to have posts that qualify as well, and that one is in summation mode.

dwise1 writes:Re: The Knowledgeable Creationist
Ah! So if you're not drinking then you are suffering from a mental and/or emotional affliction. Or your fundamentalist brainwashing has bleached out your neo-cortex.You see, that's the problem that your theology creates. Drawing directly from his own fundamentalist upbringing, Dan Barker describes it as "when your theology becomes your theology." You see, we are Normals, whereas you are one of the aberants. Your brain is broken. You undoubtedly came in still believing that your way was right and that we "atheists" (most of us are not atheists, just not blind fundies) would just collapse when you dazzled us with your superior divine knowledge and arguments.And then reality bit you in the butt across both cheeks. You were completely unprepared to engage in any kind of discussion. You cannot deal with reality. So then you lash out in anger. You just cannot figure out to deal with the fact that all you have is crap. And with your fundamentalist psychology, that endangers your faith.Sorry, but this is something that you need to work out yourself. Obviously, when one finds that what one believes is false, then one must deal with that, knowing that the problem at worst lies with the theology and not with any deities that theology deals with. After all, all theology is man-made. But then that is what a Normal would think, whereas you are a fundamentalist Aberant still entrapped by your theology-turned-psychology. You need to work that out for yourself, though you might find some inspiration at http://www.ex-christian.net/ from those who had gone through the same thing themselves.