|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: The Search for Moderate Islam | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
I'd call the 9/11 attacks a real threat. The two WTCs, the Pentagon, and the White House. As well as one other which didn't get off the ground. Do you have some good reason why you'd want to minimize those attacks as not being a real threat? This I've got to hear! How utterly sad that you find those a threat to the US. Even if all had succeeded would they have threatened the continuation of the US? I have a little more faith in reality. When much of London was destroyed during the Blitz did it threaten the continuation of Great Britain? Is the US so weak and insignificant that the destruction of two buildings and damage to a third threatens its existence? Certainly it is a tragedy but to claim it was a threat to the US simply makes the US look pathetic. Maybe you're right. Perhaps we should invite various thugs around the world to do similar attacks on an annual basis. We could even make it a holiday of some sorts. Maybe we could even do a lottery to select who gets to whack us on that day. And the size of the attack could come as a big surprise! We could even celebrate with fireworks or something. After all, it doesn't threaten our overall continuation, now does it?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Maybe you're right. Perhaps we should invite various thugs around the world to do similar attacks on an annual basis. We could even make it a holiday of some sorts. Maybe we could even do a lottery to select who gets to whack us on that day. And the size of the attack could come as a big surprise! We could even celebrate with fireworks or something. After all, it doesn't threaten our overall continuation, now does it?
LOL Perhaps that is what you suggest, but I have never made such a stupid suggestion. But maybe in your wisdom you might be right. What you are suggesting is that we should not react very vigorously to these kinds of attacks. That's a sure method for encouraging more such attacks, not fewer! Now, the method we used after 9/11 was probably not very good. Long, protracted gradual escalation type "actions" are a proven failure. But perhaps our failure was in under-reacting, not over-reacting. Maybe some combination of a short-term real "shock and awe" along with very focused use of our special forces to chase after the bad guys would have been more effective. And it would have been a lot less costly. That extra $ trillion or so could have been used very productively on research and development here at home. It can be argued that we received no good long-term benefits from the way we conducted the post-9/11 actions. Certainly recent events have suggested that to be the case. So, maybe the solution is more blitzkrieg and less PC in our military activities. Better to be feared and respected than to be liked.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
‘More will follow’: ISIS fighter praises Paris massacre
A fighter for the Islamic State militant group praised Wednesday’s attack on a French satirical magazine that killed at least 12 people, telling Reuters the raid was revenge for insults against Islam. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
just how fanatically racist you are "Muslim" is not a race.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
2,000 Feared Dead in Boko Haram Attack
More than 2,000 people are feared dead after Boko Haram destroyed 10 to 20 communities in Nigeria’s rural northeast, according to a senator from the region. These towns are just gone, burned down, said Ahmed Zanna. The whole area is covered in bodies. The radical Islamic group razed the town of Baga along with several others over the past five days. The 2,000 are unofficially unaccounted for. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
Militants planning mass casualty attacks against West
Militants planning mass casualty attacks against West London (AFP) - The head of Britain's domestic spy agency MI5 warned on Thursday that militant Islamists in Syria were planning "mass casualty attacks" in the West and that intelligence services may be powerless to stop them. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
Hundreds of Millions of Muslims Support Attack on ‘Charlie Hebdo’Hundreds of Millions of Muslims Support Attack on ‘Charlie Hebdo’
Bill Maher: Hundreds of Millions of Muslims Support Attack on ‘Charlie Hebdo’ Bill Maher didn’t hold back Wednesday night, blasting hundreds of millions of the world’s Muslims for allegedly supporting the Islamic terrorist massacre of cartoonists, writers, and editors at a Parisian satirical magazine that has mocked the Prophet Muhammad. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Europe's nightmare: Terror threats both large and small
http://hosted.ap.org/...s/E/EU_EUROPE_DEALING_WITH_TERRORISM LONDON (AP) -- The military-style attack in Paris has made clear that Europe faces an evolving, ever-more complex terror threat no longer dominated by a few big players. |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
Boko Haram Just Pulled Off One Of The Deadliest Terrorist Attacks In History
The jihadist group Boko Haram has pulled off what is perhaps the deadliest attack of its ongoing, five-year-long insurgency in northern Nigeria. Boko Haram, extremists opposed to Western-style education and secular governance in Nigeria, carried out a multiday attack in the northeast of Nigeria, focusing on the town of Baga. According to Musa Alhaji Bukar, a senior government official who spoke to the BBC, Baga, which once had a population of about 10,000 people, is now "virtually nonexistent." The multiday rampage focused on Baga and the surrounding towns and villages. The militants razed an estimated 16 towns around Baga, according to the BBC. These towns are just gone, burned down, Borno State Senator Ahmed Zanna told NBC News. The whole area is covered in bodies. The rampage has led to the deaths of an estimated 2,000 Nigerian civilians, and has sent approximately 10,000 people fleeing into neighboring Chad, according to the Associated Press. Read more: Boko Haram's Deadliest Terrorist Attack yet
[ps. Boko Haram aren't Amish]Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
We know there are radical islamists. That isn't the topic. You are like a creationist. You think if you provide evidence of radical Islam you defeat the idea that there are moderate people in Islam. I notice you cannot not argue against the evidence of moderates. You keep posting on the moderates, I'll keep posting on the extremists. When the extremists can dominate the moderates, they don't really count, do they?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
That would make you off topic wouldn't it You want me to start a separate thread for "extreme Islam?" I could do that, and find plenty of examples to fill it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
But even extreme Islam is not the threat to the US or US citizens that our Congress, Executive Branch and SCOTUS present and certainly no threat to the rest of the world compared to the threat from the US.
Run whatever you like. Its your dime. Shall I run the numbers for you again? But you have certainly expressed a very anti-American sentiment in this post. Maybe you should go talk to the ISIS folks. Perhaps you would find a number of sentiments in common? In the meantime, I'll take seriously any group that expresses a willingness to kill me and many of my countrymen if we don't kowtow to their extreme religious beliefs.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
There is no left in the US, only right, righter and rightest. If you can't see anyone to your left, what does that say about your views?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Child suicide bomber kills at least 16 in Nigeria
Page Not Found | Reuters (Reuters) - A bomb strapped to a girl aged around 10 years old exploded in a busy market place in the Nigerian city of Maiduguri on Saturday, killing at least 16 people and injuring more than 20, security sources said. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
|
That you thought Boko Haram strapping bombs to little girls is remotely relevant to the girl's religious perspective kind of disgusts me. Ummm, you seem to have read my post quite wrong. The little girl was a murder victim not a suicide bomber. But still, she wasn't Amish. Care to guess what the dominant religion is in that area? (Isn't Mormon either.) But what amazes me is how many apologists there are for the religion that fosters all of this mayhem. Care to guess about what percentage of all terrorism today comes from one primary source? (And no, it isn't the Amish or the Mormons.)Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024