The Search for Moderate Islam

But you still have only posted your propaganda and never bothered to answer the questions:Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?Have you ever read the Constitution Faith? Is this not what the First Amendment says?

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Amendment I

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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Are you saying that the way to maintain freedom is by taking away freedoms?

Absolutely. We curtail the freedoms of criminals and Islam is a criminal ideology.Oh, and I've read all you've listed, but I'm sure that won't stop your incessant ranting, because all you really care about is your own stupdly false interpretations.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I know some kids--teens,actually...in Sweden. They are my internet friends. They are all Islamic. I believe that God arranged this meeting. Were I to tell them that their religion was wrong, how long do you think they would remain my friends?

Europe's nightmare: Terror threats both large and smallhttp://hosted.ap.org/...s/E/EU_EUROPE_DEALING_WITH_TERRORISM

LONDON (AP) -- The military-style attack in Paris has made clear that Europe faces an evolving, ever-more complex terror threat no longer dominated by a few big players.

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It's not just al-Qaida, or Islamic State. It's not just the disciples of some fiery, hate-filled preachers.

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Instead, security experts say, it's now an Internet-driven, generalized rage against Western society felt by radicalized Muslims that can burst into the open at any time - with a slaughter in Paris, an attack on a Jewish Museum in Belgium, or the slaying of a soldier in the streets of London.

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This evolving hydra-headed beast bedevils security chiefs, who have to deal not only with al-Qaida planners looking for another 9/11-style hit but also with, as in Paris, well-trained, well-armed killers intent on avenging perceived insults to their religion by gunning down journalists.

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In a rare public speech, Andrew Parker, director of the domestic British security service MI5, said Thursday that thwarting terrorist attacks has become more difficult as the threat becomes more diffuse.

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It is harder, he said, for agents to disrupt plans of small groups or "lone wolves" who act spontaneously, with minimal planning but deadly effect.

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So you claim but I notice so far you have produced no evidence to support your allegation or show that there is any justification for denying basic rights to an ideology.But you still have only posted your propaganda and never bothered to answer the questions:Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?Have you ever read the Constitution Faith? Is this not what the First Amendment says?

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Amendment I

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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Are you saying that the way to maintain freedom is by taking away freedoms?When a Muslim commits a crime that Muslim is subject to the same laws in the US as a Christian. But Islam is not an individual and every Muslim has the same rights of freedom of speech and worship as a Biblical Christian.In the US it seems Nazi sympathizers are far more often Christians than Muslims. Should we also take away the rights of those people?

If God did arrange the meeting then He must expect you to lead them to the gospel or at least prepare them to receive it when possible.Where have I ever said that we are to be so foolish as to confront individual Muslims with facts they couldn't possibly understand? We are having a general discussion here in which I hope we can discuss such facts.

Why are you repeating your idiotic post when I've already answered it? Muslims politically aligned themselves with Nazism during WWII, and that is what their Nazi paraphernalia signifies. It's endemic to the religion as a whole, which promotes the hatred of Israel and the Jews as well as Christians in its own "holy" books. I believe that the colonies were right to refuse political office to Catholics and that the same refusals should be enacted against them still and against Islam, because they are both ideologies with designs to rule the world. Mere religious observances aren't the problem, it's when you know that the whole worldview aims at the destruction of the freedoms America originally stood for it's only common sense to treat them as the criminal ideologies they are and severely restrict them.Anybody with a Nazi inclination should be kept under suspicion and watched closely, including individuals who call themselves "Christians."Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

And many Christians aligned themselves with the Nazis and Fascists as well and continue to do so today.But when you say "I believe that the colonies were right to refuse political office to Catholics and that the same refusals should be enacted against them still and against Islam, because they are both ideologies with designs to rule the world." you only show why the First Amendment was and is necessary. It is not Islam folk should fear but Biblical Christianity.Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?Have you ever read the Constitution Faith?If you have answered those questions and are not just claiming to have done so perhaps you can provide a link to the message where you answered them?

Can't you read Jar Man? ISLAM ITSELF aligned itself with Nazism because hatred of Israel and the Jews is part of their religion. The religion itself, not individual Muslims. And most of the "Christians" that supported Nazism were Catholics. There was a steady stream of Catholic Nazis the Pope helped to escape to South America after the war. Yes there are also some Nazi infected "Protestants." But Protestantism as a whole is NOT in favor of Nazism. It would be SO nice if anybody here could learn to make necessary distinctions.And as I said you would you continue your rant although I said I've read them all.

The problem is that you've made "necessary distinctions" when you read them - i.e. you've decided ahead of time which parts to pick and choose. A good example is your chronic inability to see the beams in your own eye.

I'm sorry but again, you are still just making claims. And your evidence for that is?Roman Catholics are Christians.How does an ideology align itself with anything?Is it not individuals and Nation States that align themselves?Was not Egypt aligned with Great Britain?Were not Indian Muslims aligned with the allies?Weren't the Philippines aligned with the allies?

Then why are virtually all American Nazis and other white supremacists invariably Protestant? Don't forget that they are as virulently anti-Catholic as you are. Yes, those Protestants just keep turning to evil pursuits.Edited by dwise1, : qs

Muslims don't publically air their Nazi sympathies. They keep them locked up in the back room and publically pretend to be in favor of American law.

So if Protestantism is supposed to be so antithetical to Nazism, why do Protestants keep getting drawn to it like moths to a flame?Protestants, especially the evangelical types, themselves seek world domination. They want to convert everybody to their own particular religion. They want to take over our government, "reclaiming America" like Hitler wanted to "gather together the German peoples."Protestants are no different from the other religious groups, except for their fanaticism (which is admittedly less than Muslim fanaticism).

God save us from ALL religions.We need to shrug off this superstition, prejudice and dangerous bullshit. We just can't grow up fast enough.