Existence of Noah's Ark

i'm not following this discussion, so i don't know what crazy claim the rat is making this time, but the bible DOES talk about a storm, or at least rain.

first off, i'm really confused as to who is making what claim. as i said, i'm not following this thread at all, and the rat has been known to make a few doozies in his time.however, you said the bible doesn't describe a storm, and it does. somewhat poetically, saying that god opened the windows of heaven.the ancient hebrews believed that the heavens were a solid dome over our heads. when god created the world, the entire universe was water. he made this dome to keep out the water. so if god wanted to start over again, he'd do it by filling the dome with water and returning everything to its original state of empty chaos. he does this by opening up holes in the dome, and water pours out onto the surface of the earth.the picture of water being poured down through the dome is something like a massive storm. but there is also water underneath the land, and god opens that up as well, so water is coming from both directions. no, it's not. i'm not saying this actually happened. all i'm saying is that the bible does describe water pouring from the sky. the image i describe is consistant with the bible, but not reality. we know that now, but they didn't then.the water came from outside their concept of the universe, and when the flood was over, it went back.

my friend's neighbourhood was under that much water yesterday.my suv sure felt like the ark.

did you miss the end of my post? it's not a god-dun-anything answer. it was a question of what the bible said, and the bible says god opened the windows of heaven and the wells of the great deep, and flooded the entire earth. the bible doesn't say the water came from the earth. it came from outside their known universe. the stars, the sun, and the moon, all existed on this big dome called "heaven" or "the firmament" that divided the waters above from the waters below. god broke both seals to flood the land (earth).this water was the water that existed before creation, and from which everything was created. it surrounds the the earth kind of like a giant inside-out snow-globe.arguing over whether or not there's enough water on the planet right now is silly for a number of reasons:
1. the ancient hebrews didn't think of the planet in the same way
2. the text implies that water came from outside of heaven
3. of course there isn't enough water on the earth today, otherwise we'd have a huge flood on our hands. none come to mind just now, but most of your posts in general tend to be rather absurd. i don't mean any offense; it doesn't get much doozier than what i just posted. but then, that's what the bible says, i'm not claiming it to be accurate. actually, i've been persecuted by both christians and athiests alike for my beliefs. one christian member practically called me blasphemous for saying things about god he thought to be degratory, even after i posted every single verse backing every claim up.

yes, it probably is. that's what i meant. oh, ok. i get your point. sorry for being an ass. i agree. precisely what i was trying to demonstrate. that, and that symmolic meaning is more important than the details and historical accuracy.