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Message 752 of 877 (835236)
06-20-2018 7:36 AM
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06-20-2018 7:05 AM


Re: Strata eroded or deformed in blocks proves Geo Column / Time Scale over and done withIf
An unconformity is a buried erosional or non-depositional surface separating two rock masses

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Message 755 of 877 (835239)
06-20-2018 8:00 AM
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06-20-2018 7:05 AM


Show me the erosion
SHOW ME THE EROSION. PICTURES PLEASE.
CLAIMS OF EROSION ARE THEORETICAL AND NOT REAL IN SOME CASES, PERHAPS ALL.
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Message 756 of 877 (835240)
06-20-2018 8:01 AM
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06-20-2018 7:59 AM


Re: subjective interpretation
Beautiful foliage covers a multitude of geological sins.
As it were.

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Message 764 of 877 (835251)
06-20-2018 2:08 PM
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06-20-2018 9:55 AM


Re: subjective interpretation
If you don't see what I see, so be it, but I see it just about everywhere I look, and it's all geology, not plant life. Lucky you to have such a view out your window but trees and ferns and vines and flowers are welcome camouflage for what I'm talking about, the tumble-down broken up desolate look of so much of the world. Piles of gravel, rocks in the surf, amorphous shapes, etc. This all hit me about ten years ago or maybe more. If you don't see it I'm not going to argue with you. I know what I'm talking about is my own impression and it's hardly typical.
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Message 765 of 877 (835257)
06-20-2018 3:29 PM
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06-20-2018 9:38 AM


Re: Strata eroded or deformed in blocks proves Geo Column / Time Scale over and done withIf
Six of the unconformities in the Paleozoic layers of the Grand Canyon are erosional - the erosion is definitely visible.
Show me one picture. If you don't want to I can live without it. I can't keep up with your voluminous posts anyway that have half a zillion weird misrepresentations and other problems I'd need to answer.
Unconformities falsify your idea of continuous deposition, and erosional unconformities are visibly undeniable evidence.
If there isn't any sign of erosion but just a contact line that doesn't disprove continuous deposition; and if there is some sign of erosion there but not a different sediment that wouldn't disprove continuous deposition either; and if there is some portion of a different kind of sediment there that wouldn't disprove continuous deposition either.
Angular unconformities falsify your idea that no deformation of strata occurred until all strata were deposited.
As I've said umpteen times they are the only exception to that rule. But the fact that they are the ONLY exception rather confirms the rule. And I have an explanation for them that confirms it further.
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Message 766 of 877 (835260)
06-20-2018 3:40 PM
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06-20-2018 8:13 AM


Re: subjective interpretation
pollen and fossils are evidence of the pre-Flood world.
By what logic do you arrive at this conclusion?
The logic that says the strata and their contents were created by the Flood. Everything in the strata is evidence of the pre-Flood world. We could learn a lot about the original Creation by studying those things in that context. Unfortunately they are absurdly misinterpreted to be evidence of fantastical time periods that didn't exist.

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Message 768 of 877 (835266)
06-20-2018 4:59 PM
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06-20-2018 4:50 PM


wrecked planet
t? You haven't presented any images or even described what you're talking about.
Oh but I did. Here's Message 717 in its entirety;
I keep getting these new desktop images thanks to Windows 10, I suppose most people do, and a lot of them are scenes of rocky beaches and that sort of thing. Today's is a lighthouse on a giant rock somewhere. These images often have a desolate feeling to me although I think they are supposed to evoke the beauty of nature. Your avatar has you, I assume that's you, overlooking a vast desert like place, yes? Same kind of feeling about the environment. These and many similar images of planet Earth have come to speak loudly of the Flood to me. Waste spaces, uninhabitable places, what's left after a huge catastrophe destroyed the world. Badlands are an example, but also the interesting ones like the hoodoos, the buttes of Monument Valley, the Grand Staircase, the Grand Canyon. All of it speaks to me of something that was formerly perfect now ruined. All the geological phenomena you study seem to have that characteristic of some form of wreckage. There is often still beauty in these things, but I've come to think that we're looking at the devastated remains of what must originally have been a spectacular beauty and order now utterly lost.

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Message 773 of 877 (835275)
06-20-2018 7:58 PM
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06-20-2018 7:35 PM


Re: wrecked planet
Yes it's my subjective impression, so what? I'm giving my subjective impression that the planet shows that it has been wrecked by a worldwide disaster. I described my impression. If you don't see it you don't see it. Forget it.

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Message 774 of 877 (835277)
06-20-2018 8:09 PM
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06-20-2018 7:18 PM


Re: subjective interpretation
Yes all the fossils in the strata could possibly show us something about the world before the Flood because the Flood put them there. I've given the evidence for the Flood.

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Message 776 of 877 (835281)
06-20-2018 8:27 PM
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06-20-2018 8:26 PM


Re: wrecked planet
I don't know. "Subjective" doesn't mean "false" you know. Perhaps others will see it as I see it.
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Message 779 of 877 (835286)
06-21-2018 12:12 AM
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06-20-2018 8:38 PM


Re: subjective interpretation
I've argued the evidence on many threads, including this one.

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Message 781 of 877 (835288)
06-21-2018 12:19 AM
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06-20-2018 7:11 PM


Re: Strata eroded or deformed in blocks proves Geo Column / Time Scale over and done withIf
Percy, there are many reasons I can't deal with your posts, one being their sheer volume -- your debate method of burying your opponent alive -- but also that you just don't get anything I say. You say I don't make sense on this or that point though I know it does make sense but it's just futile to argue with you about those things. And here you are saying something utterly nonsensical:
Now the strata of this unit from Sixtymile down deform by tilting, and the layers above it do not deform. Obviously this falsifies your claim that strata deform as a unit
The tilting forms an angular unconformity which is an example of the exception I'm talking about.
Though I must comment that it's odd to find you describing the order of events I argue for rather than the establishment sequence of tilting, mountainbuilding, erosion, deposition of Phanerozoic strata.
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Message 783 of 877 (835291)
06-21-2018 12:33 AM
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Re: Strata eroded or deformed in blocks proves Geo Column / Time Scale over and done withIf
I don't know what you're drinking, but same sediment or not, if there was erosion then there couldn't possibly have been continuous deposition. They're opposites and mutually exclusive.
Erosion occurs between strata.

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Message 784 of 877 (835292)
06-21-2018 12:36 AM
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06-20-2018 7:11 PM


Re: Strata eroded or deformed in blocks proves Geo Column / Time Scale over and done withIf
You can call angular unconformities exceptions until the cows come home, but it won't make it true.
My eyeballs are fit to jump out of their sockets they're rolling so hard.
You SHOULD be arguing that angular unconformities aren't the ONLY exception, not that they aren't an exception. Oh my aching head.
You actually fault me for not answering your pages and pages of such absurdities?
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Message 785 of 877 (835293)
06-21-2018 12:47 AM
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06-19-2018 2:31 PM


Re: subjective interpretation
You must bear in mind that the thing ruined by the erosive forces that created the Monuments and all the other things you list was the strata full of dead things.
too absurd, why do you keep saying this? It's so absurd it proves your thinking is not to be trusted on any subject, which is what I was already thinking might be the case.
No the strata full of dead things are major wreckage.

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