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Faith 
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Message 184 of 1748 (835947)
07-05-2018 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 179 by ringo
07-05-2018 2:19 PM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
The prophecies are NOT "based on easily y understood symbolism," you totally missed the point.

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Message 186 of 1748 (835949)
07-05-2018 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by PaulK
07-05-2018 3:54 PM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
Babylon IS in the Daniel 7 prophecy, therefore it needs to be there. God doesn't make mistakes.
Babylon preceded Persia.
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Message 190 of 1748 (835953)
07-05-2018 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by PaulK
07-05-2018 4:04 PM


Re: The same four empires in the prophecies
Denying what the Bible says is not respecting it. God wrote it and it's God you are objecting to/

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Message 191 of 1748 (835954)
07-05-2018 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by PaulK
07-05-2018 4:06 PM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
God wrote the Bible, I didn't.

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Message 195 of 1748 (835960)
07-06-2018 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by PaulK
07-05-2018 11:26 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
I changed the image of the winged lion in Message 165 to an image of a lion without wings.

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Message 197 of 1748 (835962)
07-06-2018 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 194 by PaulK
07-05-2018 4:21 PM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
Then why would it be a mistake for God to exclude Babylon from the Daniel 7 prophecy ? You didn’t give any reason, you just said it would be.
Babylon is the first empire in both visions of four empires.
You are making the mistake of trying to turn it into something else.

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Message 198 of 1748 (835963)
07-06-2018 12:19 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by PaulK
07-06-2018 12:14 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
I wasn't originally looking for a winged lion, just a lion, and found the winged one which seemed better. I'm back to my original intention. All your accusations about my motives are not only violations of any standard of civilized conversation, they are wrong.

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Message 200 of 1748 (835965)
07-06-2018 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by PaulK
07-06-2018 12:22 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
The mistake is disagreeing with the entire evangelical world.

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Message 202 of 1748 (835967)
07-06-2018 12:26 AM
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07-06-2018 12:25 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
The vision is of a lion, and I wanted an image from Babylon.
Your accusations are scattered among your posts.
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Message 204 of 1748 (835969)
07-06-2018 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by PaulK
07-05-2018 2:19 PM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
Example of snarky false interpretation of my motives: "attempt to drag out this tangent." You make this sort of slimy accusation very frequently. Even the idea that I wanted a winged lion is false, I wasn't looking for a winged lion. You should stick to the subject and stop targeting me.

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Message 205 of 1748 (835970)
07-06-2018 12:37 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by PaulK
07-06-2018 12:27 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
You have no feeling for scripture or how to interpret prophecy. Most evangelicals do. Even where any of us may get points wrong we are on the right track, but all you are doing is multiplying errors because you have no sense of the foundational supernatural integrity of the Bible.
Your completely ignoring the Roman Empire and Jesus as Messiah the Prince is egregious "error" though it is far worse than mere error. You put a couple of insignificant "messiahs" in the place of Christ, and replace the giant Roman Empire with a branch off Greece and pretend all this fulfills a prophecy to "to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." This is a trivialization of the seventy weeks prophecy, but even the whole tenor of scripture.
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Message 207 of 1748 (835972)
07-06-2018 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by PaulK
07-06-2018 12:43 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
I don't think the wings are necessary to the identification. The four wings are in the case of the Leopard image of Greece, but not for Babylon. I have to suppose they have important meaning in the identification of Babylon but I think there are parts of all the prophecies that most of us aren't able to understand. Fortunately they are NOT necessary to identifying the empire.
Your claims about my motives are disgusting. You don't have a clue but even to comment on a person's motives in a discussion is disgusting./
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Message 209 of 1748 (835975)
07-06-2018 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by PaulK
07-06-2018 12:52 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
Being wrong has nothing to do with motives. Oh yes "attempt to drag out this tangent" claims I have a MOTVE to "drag out this tangent.' Oh yes WANTING a winged lion is different from thinking a winged lion is a good symbol. I COULD want it for that reason but you turned it into a scurrilous motive. You're very good at that.

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Message 211 of 1748 (835977)
07-06-2018 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by PaulK
07-06-2018 1:03 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
I guess you believe all that. It's false in every conceivable way.
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Message 214 of 1748 (835980)
07-06-2018 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by PaulK
07-06-2018 1:09 AM


Re: Symbolism isn’t that easy
You are wrong wrong wrong about my motives. Leave my motives alone.
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