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Author Topic:   Best approaches to deal w/ fundamentalism
Straggler
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Message 13 of 142 (500689)
03-01-2009 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by ICANT
03-01-2009 1:35 PM


Re: A Fundy View
Do you accept verified predictions of new evidence (i.e discoveries) made as a direct result of evolutionary theory as evidence in favour of evolutionary theory?
Or not?

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Straggler
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Message 36 of 142 (500805)
03-02-2009 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by New Cat's Eye
03-02-2009 3:27 PM


The Effect of Evidence on Faith
Hey CS
Why don't you propose a topic relating to the effects of evidence on belief and then invite Kelly along for the ride?
I think it would make a really good topic. What would be the effect of abiogenesis, evolution or the BB (for example) being demonstrated in such a way as to make denial all but impossible?
What effect, if any, should and/or does evidence have on faith?
I have done this sort of topic from the more atheistic perspective previously ("Rationalising the Irrational" thread) but to have it covered from the theistic angle would, I think, be very interesting. I would be more of an interested spectator in such a topic.
You get my vote as being the man for the job......Your mission should you choose to accept it.................?

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Straggler
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Message 42 of 142 (500812)
03-02-2009 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Kelly
03-02-2009 3:39 PM


Re: shalamabobbi specifically restated the topic of his thread
I think there are too many limits to discussion here. This inhibits good debate. Maybe no one here is really interested in debate, but rather, simply wants to further perpetuate the indoctrination of a theory they prefer.
if you stick it out I think you will find that the opposite is true.
Trying to cover every topic in every discussion just becomes a method of avoiding really thinking any single issue through.
Is the evidence for evolution equally as subjective as that for creationism?
Does the appearance of design necessarily equate to actual design?
What is abiogenesis and is it the same theory as evolution?
What evidence is there for the Big Bang?
Is prediction a necessary component of the scientific method?
Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
None of these questions (or the multitude of other examples that could have been given) can be done justice if every discussion just flits around as every given individual promotes their pet idea regardless of specific relevance.
Stick around. Apart from anything else the creationist contingent need all the help they can get....

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Straggler
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Message 43 of 142 (500814)
03-02-2009 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Kelly
03-02-2009 3:52 PM


Re: The Effect of Evidence on Faith
That would become so complicated, and the minute I would start expressing that faith is based in evidence according to Scripture, everyone would be screaming that I am once again off topic.
No. Not at all. It just needs to be in the right place. The Faith and Bleief forum is the obvious place for such a topic.
Scripture as evidence and related debate is very very much par for the course there.

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