Big Bang - Big Dud

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Argument against the Big Bang
By CreationScientist
The definition for the Big Bang I took out of page 362 of the �HBJ General Science� 1989 Edition Textbook.
�In the realm of the universe nothing really means nothing. Not only would matter and energy disappear, but also space and time. However, physicists theorize that from this state of nothingness the universe began in a gigantic explosion 16.6 billion years ago.�

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General Science Texbooks are usually a simplified introduction to a subject and no one would consider them to be the full body of knowledge.

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Also from the �Scientific American� May 1984 Edition Page 128.
�The observable universe could have formed from an infinitesimal region� The entire universe evolved from literally nothing.�

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See above.

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As stated above in the beginning there was nothing than it exploded. Does everybody know what the first law of thermodynamics says? Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Here matter is definitely being formed from nothing. This is just bad science; even the most basic scientist knows that matter could not have arising from nothing exploding.

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So it is likely that there was something and that the reference is wrong.

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On page 61 of the 1992 Edition �Prentice Hall General Science� textbook it states.
�Most scientists believe that 18 to 20 billion years ago, all the matter in the universe was concentrated into a very dense, very hot region that may have been much smaller than a period on this page. For some unknown reason this region exploded. This explosion is called the Big Bang.�
In this at least there is matter to begin with.

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Very good. Now we have replaced Nothing with Something. It is a beginning.

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On page 69 the book states that �as the nebula shrank it spun faster and faster.� So this region is spinning. Does everybody know what the law of conservation of angular momentum is? This law states that in a frictionless environment, remember above it said all the matter in the universe was concentrated, if a spinning object brakes up the pieces will spin in the same direction as the original object.

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Spin must be in relation to something. If there is only one object it is impossible to know whether it is spinning or not. If you have moved forward in time to the period when there are separate nebula or galaxies, almost any direction of motion is possible. You are no longer dealing with a single object but rather with multiple objects that will have a relationship and effect on each other.

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Two planets spin backwards, one spins on its side, and Jupiter has several moons that orbit the planet backwards and spin backwards. Doesn�t this seem just a little strange to you?

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No!

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You may say that maybe something struck the planets to make them spin backwards. Do you know what it would take to reverse the spin of a planet? I think it would leave a dent.

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Whether or not there was a dent would depend greatly on what the state and condition of the objects were. But there are quite a few other mechanisms that might lead a planet sized object to spin in one direction or another. For example, a captured moon could well have been spinning in most any direction before being captured. It would most likely continue spinning in the same direction until tidal or other forces changed its spin.

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Evolution is every bit as much as a religion as creation is. When you get right down to it, you must believe something without knowing why it happened. �For some unknown reason this region exploded.�

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I believe that you misunderstand science. Science is not involved with WHY something happens or happened. Instead it is a documentation of WHAT happened and HOW it happened. That is far different than why it happened. It is totally immaterial WHY the Big Bang happened. If you are religious, then you can say GOD made it happen. That is fine with any scientist I know. The scientist would then ask, How did he (or she) do it?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Because the post is simply so silly that it is not worth response. Even Cliff didn't buy it.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Saw that one just the other day. On the other side was one the same color and Font that said "Or maybe not".Bout sums it up.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

What fact? Why do you think all explosions are destructive?If your income increased explosively, would that be destructive?If knowledge increased explosively would that be destructive?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Not really. They can also be constructive, when used for mining or quarrying, when it really is an explosion of knowledge as happened after the Religious dominated Dark Ages gave way to Science, as in increases in productivity, as in the Big Bang (which probably was not an explosion as we know it anyway). In fact, the only reason that you exist is thanks to explosions. It was early stars exploding that created the heavier elements you are made of.So don't denigrate the creative power of explosions. Without such explosions you wouldn't even exit.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

You may well have a soul but the packaging is simply the result of explosions.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So far no one knows. And it's not even sure that the term Matter would really have any meaning under those conditions.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

No, that's not at all what happened.The Big Bang is not an explosion. Read some more here and you'll find folk that will try to work with you. Look to cavediver and son_goku and nosyNed and sylas if he drops in. They can help you. Well there is absolute evidence that is what did happen. That much is not in doubt. Exactly what happened is still very much in question but the the reality of the Big Bang is not in doubt.You need to know that many if not most Christians have no trouble accepting either the Big Bang or Evolution. We see both as simply ways of learning how GOD actually did it.Like Evolution, ignoring the fact of the Big Bang and the age of the universe is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

That's a really, really simplistic description.If you want to learn about the Big Bang (by the way, the term Big Bang was actually originally a derogatory term applied because so many thought what was found had far too much of a religious nature) a good place to start is here.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Okay, as I said before, here is a good place to start. That's fine. No one has to believe, the Big Bang is a fact, even if no one believes in it.As to Christians agreeing that the Big Bang is the best current explanation, it's also fine that you believe many if not most Christians support it. Again, belief does not trump reality. The biggest supporters of current cosmological research are religious groups, mainly Christians. I'm a Christian, and I see the evidence as absolutely overwhelming. Reason's to believe a Christian website, supports the BB. Robert J. Schneider from Berea College explains why. Faith & Reason is another Christian organization that supports the BB.The BB is accepted by the Episcopal Church, Roman Catholic Church, Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran and just about every major Christian sects. It is probably one of the most completely supported theories in existence today.If you are being taught otherwise, you are simply being cheated and misinformed.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion