What would be enough proof for a creationist?

Requiring an answer to biogenesis before considering the validity of evolution is more of a philosophical question than a scientific one. Evolution is a question of how, not when or why.Yes, the answer to the biogenesis would solve many problems. Till then I hope Ned gets a more reasoned discussion than evasion and multiple reposts that are more expected from some of the boot camp denizens.Evolution deals with processes after life started- all else is philosophy,theology, or cosmology pressed past its limits.Don't get me wrong tho; from your previous posts I see that you are generally thoughtful on topics and are on the higher end of (what I assume) creationist or theistic evolution POV; but if I am putting words in your mouth I apologize in advance.edit...via post 31 those reposts were inadvertant...sorry about the boot camp smack banana boyThis message has been edited by Arkansas Banana Boy, 01-28-2005 02:40 AM

Agreed Q... and I don't necessarily believe anyone here to be an idiot because i disaggree.

Cool, thanks for the clarification. This puts you in the theistic evolution camp and I see no inherent contradiction there. Even if abiogenesis is proven in the lab it doesn't mean that God didn't initiate it 3 billion plus yrs ago. What I'm saying is that determination is beyond the scope of science.With all respect the banana boy

Thanks for the kind reply...perhaps the mods will forgive this off topic reply.Yep, we're the Razorbacks...but I lost my vicarious love of football when the Longhorns beat us in 1969(was in the stands as a youngster and they broke my spirit). I'm less than a mile from the stadium, but that includes a lot of Fayetteville anyway.The "banana boy" bit is an obscure reference to our former governor Frank White. He was the gov that was in office in 1980 between 2 Clinton governorships. We had a creation/science case where Judge Overton ruled for the science side. White supported the creation side and our famous political cartoonist George Fischer forever after depicted Frank White with a half eaten banana in his hand.I love Texas too; got family in San Antonio and Bandera and I have camped extensively in the Hill Country and Big Bend areas.I also have Cherokee in my background (greatgrandmother maternal,greatgreatgrandmother paternal) but unfortunately no written lineage, just old pics with dark long haired ladies next to my pasty German/Scottish forefathers.OK, off topic over...I'm new to this boards and boards in general. I hope to discuss stuff w/o being contentious and I've gotten off to a mixed start. I try to not get the anonymous mindset that can lead to meanness...I'll always try to talk to others like they are here.thanxArk banana boy