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Author Topic:   The Importance of Potentially Disconfirming Evidence
PaulK
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Message 32 of 182 (110829)
05-27-2004 5:20 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by John Paul
05-26-2004 12:39 PM


Re: Something About a Tornado in a Junkyard
Yet when looked at we see the same % of difference in some molecules in bacteria and all other organisms. Cytochrome C comes to mind. Not exactly what the ToE would predict.
You are wrong - what we see in the Cytochrome C differences IS exactly what the ToE would predict. The difference between any two-species - at least in a highly-conserved molecule like cytochrome-C - is dependant to the time since the most recent common ancestor.
Thus all life forms which share the same most-recent-common-ancestor with a eukaryotic bacterium will have (approximately) the same amount of difference between their cytochrome-C and the bacterium's.
On the other hand, the differences between species with a more recent common ancestor should be smaller - as they are.
Although there are enough chance influences that we cannot expect the differences to exactly match - we are relying on neutral drift to fix the changes in the various populations - the results still strongly support evolution
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Message 176 of 182 (116090)
06-17-2004 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Percy
06-17-2004 2:13 PM


Re: DEF
It isn't followed by the IDists either. The only attempt I know of to apply it to a real biological problem was Dembski's go at a bacterial flagellum. And he made a right mess of that.
As I said fairly recently here:
Nobody uses the formal version of the EF for serious problems because it is too impractical. You've got to be certain you've accounted for EVERY posssible explanation AND show that the probability of each of them is below your probability bound.

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