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coffee_addict
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Message 6 of 53 (184128)
02-09-2005 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by crashfrog
02-09-2005 1:32 PM


Hey froggie, just becareful who you recruit. The last thing we want is an atheist that has just as much faith in it as a fundie's faith in religion. True atheism come from intellectual journeys. If this guy converts to atheism because of his loss of faith in his religion, it's like converting to buddhism because you no longer believe in Allah.
It might seem like a good idea to recruit this guy, but it will likely to come back and bite you in the arse later on.

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coffee_addict
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Message 9 of 53 (184145)
02-09-2005 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by crashfrog
02-09-2005 3:02 PM


frog writes:
I'm not recruiting, and I take great offense at the suggestion that I am.
Sorry about that. I take that statement back.
But it's not uncommon - in fact, it's the rule - for persons responding to a plea for spiritual guidance from their peers to be told, more or less, "but hey, whatever you do, don't become an atheist."
That is not what I am saying at all. I am just saying that we should be careful who we give our suggestion to. Again, I believe that it is dangerous to have faith in something just because the faith in another thing has become lacking.
This guy seems to be in an unstable state of mind right now. I think the better thing to do would be to encourage him to ask more questions rather than take another position right away.
Well, that's bullshit. Atheism is an entirely legitimate position for someone seeking spiritual truth to adopt, and I'm here to present it as such. I don't care what he winds up believing, but I won't allow atheism to be presented as an outcome of spiritual failure, a destination you only wind up at if you don't have the balls for a "real" spiritual journey.
And I am trying to prevent that from happening. Why suggest this guy to take your position if chances are that he doesn't know what true atheism is? Again, the last thing I want to see is someone converting to atheism just because he lost faith in his old religion. I see no difference between that and converting from Islam to Buddhism just because the faith in Islam has become weak.

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