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Author Topic:   I have doubt in my religion
crashfrog
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Message 2 of 53 (184105)
02-09-2005 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by my_allegory
02-09-2005 1:18 PM


Have you ever considered atheism?

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crashfrog
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Message 5 of 53 (184127)
02-09-2005 2:56 PM
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02-09-2005 1:57 PM


The church (i.e. the body of believers) is composed of fallible humans, and will have problems.
An opposing view might be that, since churches are no more or less likely to have problems than any other group of fallible humans, one might come to the conclusion that churches are simply groups of fallible humans, and not actually groups under the blessing of any kind of god.
But I agree with JT in that your increasing knowledge about the nature of humans should be regarded separately from your quest for knowledge about the nature of God. They're not the same thing.

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crashfrog
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Message 7 of 53 (184134)
02-09-2005 3:02 PM
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02-09-2005 2:57 PM


It might seem like a good idea to recruit this guy
I'm not recruiting, and I take great offense at the suggestion that I am.
But it's not uncommon - in fact, it's the rule - for persons responding to a plea for spiritual guidance from their peers to be told, more or less, "but hey, whatever you do, don't become an atheist." Well, that's bullshit. Atheism is an entirely legitimate position for someone seeking spiritual truth to adopt, and I'm here to present it as such. I don't care what he winds up believing, but I won't allow atheism to be presented as an outcome of spiritual failure, a destination you only wind up at if you don't have the balls for a "real" spiritual journey.

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crashfrog
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Message 10 of 53 (184195)
02-09-2005 6:47 PM
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02-09-2005 3:29 PM


I think the better thing to do would be to encourage him to ask more questions rather than take another position right away.
Which, if you'll look back at my original post, that's exactly what I asked him to do.

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