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The bible and homosexuality: Round 3

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Message 169 of 306 (157509)
11-08-2004 11:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 140 by Phat
08-21-2004 5:22 PM

Re: Same sex attraction discussed......
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Many who have same sex attraction are not repulsed by the opposite sex, and many, such as yourself, are. Why is this?
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Because sexuality, just like any other trait in a species, can be plotted on a smooth distribution?
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Either end will be strongly same- or opposite-sex attracted, and the middle will be some combination of being attracted to both genders.
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I think that the graph will not be symmetrical; the spike will be weighted heavily towards the opposite sex-attracted, but it is still a bell curve rather than an either-or situation.
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Message 171 of 306 (157512)
11-09-2004 12:02 AM 		Reply to: Message 142 by Phat
08-22-2004 4:02 AM

Re: Same sex attraction discussed......
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Many gays are immature. Emotionally stunted. They are 20 something with a teenage emotional makeup. They are frozen at the age at which they first experienced sex
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...and this is different from most heterosexual men HOW, exactly?
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(ans women, for that matter)
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Message 176 of 306 (157574)
11-09-2004 8:22 AM 		Reply to: Message 175 by Phat
11-09-2004 7:42 AM

Re: Berberry, Lam, Rodney...can't we all just get along?
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I know that same sex attraction is inborn.
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OK, that's good.
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All that I maintain is that if a person loves God first, allowing His Spirit to fill them, they will be less concerned with their "right" to have sex with another.
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Are straights who love God first and allow his spirit to fill them less concerned with their rights to love and have sex with whom they choose as well?
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If so, what can you show as evidence that this is true?
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I am not attacking homosexuality...I just do not see the need to marry as being of high priority.
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Well, gay people do see it as an area where secular rights are being denied to them on a religious basis, and they would be right.
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It is inappropriate for the religious majority to hold hostage a purely secular legal contract granted by our secular government.
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Love God and desire holiness and love from His Spirit, and nobody will attack your orientations....but if you trumpet about with the "right" to marry, you will be scrutinized.
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There is no secular basis to deny gay people marriage.
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There is only a religious basis to deny them.
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Nobody says that your church has to marry gay people.
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They want to be able to have legal SECULAR MARRIAGES.
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11-10-2004 9:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Zachariah
07-01-2004 2:15 AM

Re: to truthlover
I know this is ancient, but...
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If they give homosexuals the right to marry that effects everyone. People that believe it to be wrong won't get a choice anymore. They will HAVE to live with it no matter what. So you say it's okay as long as the gays get treated fairly even though others are being treated unfairly in there view of things. When it is all said and done someone is going to be treated unfairly in there view. If the marriages are legalized throughout then they will have to change the textbooks to show the new families even though they make up 2-4% of the population. Talk about MINORITY RULE. If they took a vote of the entire country I bet over 75 percent of the country would be against it. This is forcing views onto people. At least the "christians" ask you to consider what they have said, not YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THIS. Some may do that, but not many.
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If they give mixed race couples the right to marry that effects everyone. People that believe it to be wrong won't get a choice anymore. They will HAVE to live with it no matter what. So you say it's okay as long as the mixed race couples get treated fairly even though others are being treated unfairly in there view of things. When it is all said and done someone is going to be treated unfairly in there view. If the marriages are legalized throughout then they will have to change the textbooks to show the new families even though they make up 2-4% of the population. Talk about MINORITY RULE. If they took a vote of the entire country I bet over 75 percent of the country would be against it. This is forcing views onto people. At least the "christians" ask you to consider what they have said, not YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THIS. Some may do that, but not many.
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