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Author Topic:   The bible and homosexuality: Round 3
contracycle
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Message 200 of 306 (157918)
11-10-2004 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by svonnah_la_fay
11-10-2004 8:44 AM


Re: Okay
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Okay, fine everyone...maybe it cannot be proven SUFFICIENTLY (sub capitals for italics) the reasons why God and his church are against homosexuality, but one would expect the physical and mental repulsion, even from those at a very young age first introduced to the topic, would be hint enough.
Nonsense. Do you find racism repugnant? Most people claim to, and yet our society has been brutally racist and THOSE people did not find it repugnant at all, but rational and moral.
Most very small children react negatively even to hetero sex; but then, given we spend a lot of time enforcing cleanliness, and the inherent foulness of other peoples bodily fluids, its not necessarily that surprising. (as a child I found it quite odd that adults wouldn't share a spoon but would happily try to suck each others tongues out)
The point being: an alleged "natural" reaction by children almost certainly is not. It is extremely difficult to isolate social influences even on children who cannot yet talk. We simply do not know if this is a childs "authentic" reaction or if the child is producing the output they have been trained to produce.

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contracycle
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Message 217 of 306 (158658)
11-12-2004 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by riVeRraT
11-12-2004 9:04 AM


Re: Please
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*sigh* Whats the matter with people these days?
I never said rape was a choice, we were talking about screaming during the act. If a woman chooses not to scream it is a sign that she is enjoying it, thats what they mean in the bible.
really?
Two police officers have just been found guilty in the UK for committing rape, in which the woman did not scream becuase she did not want to wake her children and have them see what was going on.
In a partirarchic society in which a woman may be seen as polluted or spoiled even by non-consensual sex, then they may not scream because the result of someone coming to help would be ostracism, in the long run.
This sort of criteria basically gives men a free licence to rape, and is exactly the sort of thing we criticised the Taliban for.

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