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Author Topic:   What makes so many people hate God
Mister Pamboli
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Message 10 of 225 (21890)
11-08-2002 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Chara
11-08-2002 3:20 PM


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Originally posted by Chara:
If I chose to believe that you do not exist, even though I was your child, what would be your response?
I would punish you with "everlasting punishment", "in flaming fire taking vengeance" for your unbelief. Seems only fair, to me. Damned ungrateful kids!

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Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7608 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 135 of 225 (22869)
11-15-2002 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by gene90
11-09-2002 7:06 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by gene90:
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The variables would be interesting. You would need account for:
who or what was being prayed to;
who or what was being prayed for;
who or what was praying, the sincerity of their beliefe, their sincerity of wishes etc;
distinguish between praying for and just wishing good will towards;
for those just wishing good will towards a subject, include the variables of their sincerity, etc.
In other words, one could possibly do it, but it would not be a single experiment, rather a sustained program of research over many years, subjects and dsiciplines.
And then there is the fatal flaw: if the prayers are directed to an omnipresent, omniscient deity, then
a: the deity knows the result of the experiment in the advance
b: the deity can never be double-blind tested
c: there is the possibility that some of the variables (the sincerity of the prayer) are unreliably measurable by the experiments, but perfectly known by the deity
etc, etc.
Even just thinking along these lines for a few minutes should be enough to put the kibosh on the whole attempt. Unfalsifiable in the extreme.

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