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Author Topic:   What makes so many people hate God
graedek
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Message 100 of 225 (22437)
11-13-2002 2:45 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by no2creation
11-13-2002 2:38 AM


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so that's what he did... and he gave us the choice of simply trusting in him... trusting in his solution to the problem that being born with free will (an inherent attribute of God, and of us) posed...
so that's where we are... choosing whether or not to believe that God provided us with a way out of this mess... all it takes is faith.. it's not unreasonable for a person to ask for proof... it is unreasonable for a person to deny the existence of such proof... come, let us reason together...

It is not a 'CHOICE' that you can make to just 'BELIEVE'. I have tried to come to the same belief(s) that many Catholics/Christians alike have. I need a certain level of evidence, that for me, is simply not there. I am NOT blind, ignorant or arrogant of the evidence either. I simply don't believe. When I read the bible, it reads ficticous to me, it just doesn't register as a rational, reasonable, TRUE account of something that has happened.
When presented with information for the possible existence of a God, I do not come to the same conclusion that someone else would. Lets say there was a God, why would he judge me based on something not in my control (believing)?
Kind Regards.

check this out....interesting stuff
(80 pages but worth the read)
Revolution Against Evolution – A Revolution of the Love of God
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graedek
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Message 186 of 225 (23762)
11-22-2002 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 2:37 PM


hey lizlips. You seem pretty upset by the debating that goes on in this site. I agree, sometimes the tone of rebuttals gets a little out of hand, but criticism is needed in science for theories to be perfected or discarded.(don't let it offend you-turn your cheek remember?)
If you believe that you need to defend God, you are mistaken. (he does not favour sensationalism) I'm pretty sure God can handle himself. He asks something different of us than to prove he exists. He wants us to have faith in his return. Why do you think He has withdrawn for so long? (test the growth of our characters in his 'absence'?)
Our characters are to be mirrors to His light, not rabid sheep running off trying to fight wolves in the bushes. (lol, I know it is tempting sometimes) Just follow the shepherd, and don't forgot His promises made to you.
I believe that creationism keeps mainstream science on its toes in some ways. The incongruities need to be accounted for, not tossed aside.
I personally find geology, astronomy and chemistry fascinating, and have been following the discussion on humphrey's helium retention studies,as well as his creation theory.(the water ball and all that)
I love what that theory hints about 'time'. What is the opinion around here towards him? I know one thing, it is sure cool to see someone thinking outside the box and being creative (even if he is wrong in the end).
I was thinking last night of a huge database, incorporating all data in every field ever recorded (minus the inferences). Sometimes it is frustrating to find out where ALL scientific discovery sits at any given time. I tend to fall back to a philosophy site that discusses science when i get confused. Maybe thats wrong, but it seems to be unbiased enough for me to clear my head
Guide to the World's Philosophers - philosophers.co.uk
Hey, if geology fans are reading this, i'm curious about the brea tar pits as used by creationists to suport some kind of flood model. I was hoping for some accurate information on this. I read that the bones discovered had some weird characteristics.....no soft tissue, and super packed together, etc.....
Seems odd......
Anyways, gotta go....coffee's brewing
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