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Author Topic:   What makes so many people hate God
forgiven
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Message 181 of 225 (23751)
11-22-2002 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Primordial Egg
11-22-2002 2:06 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Primordial Egg:
Have to agree, Heston was a damn (whoops!) good Moses.

lol.. ayup, one of the best... hmmm i wonder if 'damned good' is one of them there oxymorons? something like that

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joz
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Message 182 of 225 (23752)
11-22-2002 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by forgiven
11-22-2002 1:55 PM


quote:
Originally posted by forgiven:
he surely did, and a fine moses he was... he also played God (i think), at least once... when crocodile dundee played that angel?
How about we just compromise on Alanis Morissette from Dogma as God?

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:j: Lizard Lips
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Message 183 of 225 (23753)
11-22-2002 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by John
11-22-2002 12:30 AM


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[This message has been edited by :j: Lizard Lips, 11-22-2002]

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John
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Message 184 of 225 (23757)
11-22-2002 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Mammuthus
11-22-2002 7:39 AM


That was BRILLIANT, Mammuthus.
LOL......
I'm in tears and my sides hurt....
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John
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Message 185 of 225 (23758)
11-22-2002 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 6:51 AM


quote:
Originally posted by :j: Lizard Lips:
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[This message has been edited by :j: Lizard Lips, 11-22-2002]

hmmm.... this appears to be where that brilliant post putting me in my place used to reside?
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graedek
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Message 186 of 225 (23762)
11-22-2002 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 2:37 PM


hey lizlips. You seem pretty upset by the debating that goes on in this site. I agree, sometimes the tone of rebuttals gets a little out of hand, but criticism is needed in science for theories to be perfected or discarded.(don't let it offend you-turn your cheek remember?)
If you believe that you need to defend God, you are mistaken. (he does not favour sensationalism) I'm pretty sure God can handle himself. He asks something different of us than to prove he exists. He wants us to have faith in his return. Why do you think He has withdrawn for so long? (test the growth of our characters in his 'absence'?)
Our characters are to be mirrors to His light, not rabid sheep running off trying to fight wolves in the bushes. (lol, I know it is tempting sometimes) Just follow the shepherd, and don't forgot His promises made to you.
I believe that creationism keeps mainstream science on its toes in some ways. The incongruities need to be accounted for, not tossed aside.
I personally find geology, astronomy and chemistry fascinating, and have been following the discussion on humphrey's helium retention studies,as well as his creation theory.(the water ball and all that)
I love what that theory hints about 'time'. What is the opinion around here towards him? I know one thing, it is sure cool to see someone thinking outside the box and being creative (even if he is wrong in the end).
I was thinking last night of a huge database, incorporating all data in every field ever recorded (minus the inferences). Sometimes it is frustrating to find out where ALL scientific discovery sits at any given time. I tend to fall back to a philosophy site that discusses science when i get confused. Maybe thats wrong, but it seems to be unbiased enough for me to clear my head
Guide to the World's Philosophers - philosophers.co.uk
Hey, if geology fans are reading this, i'm curious about the brea tar pits as used by creationists to suport some kind of flood model. I was hoping for some accurate information on this. I read that the bones discovered had some weird characteristics.....no soft tissue, and super packed together, etc.....
Seems odd......
Anyways, gotta go....coffee's brewing
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:j: Lizard Lips
Inactive Junior Member


Message 187 of 225 (23763)
11-22-2002 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by John
11-22-2002 1:23 PM


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[This message has been edited by :j: Lizard Lips, 11-23-2002]

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:j: Lizard Lips
Inactive Junior Member


Message 188 of 225 (23764)
11-22-2002 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 3:52 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by :j: Lizard Lips:
[B]
quote:
Originally posted by John:
quote:
Originally posted by :j: Lizard Lips:
Hi....John!
I simply hate the way you piecemeal everyones posts.

You mean the way I about to piecemeal yours?

John how does this quote thing work in the reply quote work. Can you help me with this so I can continue to crack your butt ,lol.
love ellen lol

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:j: Lizard Lips
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Message 189 of 225 (23765)
11-22-2002 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 3:58 PM


SORRY JOHN! I guess I have to stop posting to you! And I have to stop calling you names too..which I will miss. Because I guess I am not suppose to be mad at people who don't believe in God. And I was told to not fight with you! You don't know how this hurts me to say the following: BUT I AM SORRY JOHN!
They said to let you go and not to be a rabid sheep looking to fight the wolves in the bushes. So I have to go now.
Bye, (because I have been invited to another forum were they speak about space and such. I think I will like it better there. HOPEFULLY there arn't any Jerks in that one too.
bye

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John
Inactive Member


Message 190 of 225 (23766)
11-22-2002 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by :j: Lizard Lips
11-22-2002 2:37 PM


quote:
Originally posted by :j: Lizard Lips:

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Common john, why do you think he dont want to discuss this with you?Maybe your just too bullheaded and snide, and he tiars of your lame responce to his posts. (just a thought, Jerk)
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You are behind the times aren't you?
"Dont" needs an apostrophe. "Your" is missing an 'e' as well as an apostrophe. "Tiars" and "responce" are both misspelled.
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What the hell does steven Kings books have to do with the dam question at hand John?!
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Well, Funkie and several other posters here figured it out. Let's say we let you try again.
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The above a contradiction to your own beliefs John..what the hell does this disprove..omg your a jerk!
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I thought that I was lacking in the belief department? (Though not in the briefs department )
What belief does this contradict? And, what makes you think I was attempting to disprove something?
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Father of Jesus?!! Again john you take even the very contradictive steps to your own demise by twisting this verse.
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Have you read your Bible lately? There are plenty of references to Jesus as the son of Joseph. That by default makes Joseph the father, adoptive father perhaps but still father. If you had taken the time to pay attention, you would have noticed that nowhere in the thread did I dispute the adoptive status of Joseph. That has just been assumed for the sake of simplifying the discussion.
So basically, you are having a cow for no good reason. But its funny.
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Again John, you disbelieve the bible, but you put your trust in the words mere men write..whats sup wid dat?
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Hate to break it to you but the bible is just a bunch of words that men wrote. But you believe it? What's up with that?
quote:
One is easily lost quickly John, when one doesnt study the word of God. As in your case.. geek.
Call me on some particular bit of Bible study. I seriously doubt you even know the basics.
And, thanks. I am a geek.
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JOhn, just because a man is OLD< does not mean the subject he studied
all his life isnt true/right//what is meant here, is: A man that has studied the bible all his life must find some truth in it, and He is right in what he has studied in that what he has studied be it either a text of old/or recently learned studies. Twistin again JOhn..ya twisten it again ...jerk
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Did you miss the part were Funkie made the long-study==must know something argument and I corrected it with the illustration which you have just criticised? In short, it is a stupid argument. That is eactly the point.
And as for your clarification.... WOW!!!! Is that even English?
quote:

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Well john, you sureidly cant have an opinion of the bible if you havent studied it fully...and what is this authority you speak of john, is it you god forbid? Round and round john goes where his twisting of post gooooooo?
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Did I dispute that one ought to have studied the bible before debating it?
Is the authority me? Why would funkie appeal to me as an authority? Maybe you should pay attention. The claim is that funkie is appealing to the authority of some-old-bible-scholar. This is a fallacy.
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John, john, john,, now now, be mature...leave words like crap to me, i am an authority on thoes type of words. See..when you say: crap in reply to this nice mans post, you are really saying you dont have any authority in the word of God, because you qualify it as crap in your heart. PLease let me use your own words against you as you do so many others. Tho it is the word of God, but not your word, it is also reason that you should volenteer to not comment on these type of posts. Believe me, you will sleep better, and leave the world of God to those who will listen.Because you sure don't care to. You just bring it down once again...the proof is in the pudding.. (your reply).
Big jerk.
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I can't have an opinion because I don't assume that the Bible is true?
Sad really....
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John, you analyze too much. Inhale, exhale,count to ten john. There, now go find another hobby..ummm maybe fishhhen will do ya good.
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Thanks for that insight. And I love the meditation. Isn't that pagan?
Oh, and thinking is a bad thing in your opinion then?
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John, (you dont have a hatred of God?!!). Then what was it that the CRAP responce to the bible was all about then eh? Dont tell me that hogwash. Simply by not believing in something can be hate in its self.
If it is noun, then you make it personal..an that is to a God that does existh john. Watch what you say, cause God is listening.
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That was about the bible. Did you miss that? Is the bible god? If no, then I was not discussing god? Besides which, I don't hate the bible either, I hate what happens when it is put on a pedestal as if it were something it isn't-- ie, the infallible word of God.
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john, if you were dying of thurst, and i said there is water up yonder, and to follow me, would you die or believe first and follow me to the water? Oh , yeah.. i for got you are a jerk so you would rather die of thurst. What a jerk.
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We aren't talking about thirst. That is something of which I have some experience.
We aren't talking about water. I also have some experience in that department.
We also aren't talking about climbing a hill. I have some experience there too.
So you are telling me that I am thirsty with a thirst I don't feel, for a substance I have never seen, on top of a hill that isn't there? Pretty silly...
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Jesus was born without sin, and the blood line he came from was to show his nationality..jewish..hence the favor of the jewish people.
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hmmmm..... you don't know your prophecies very well. What was that about needing to study the bible?
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Hence He is the messiah foretold in th OT.
The old testiment was all about showing his forthcomming .
you are such a jerk john..
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Yep. And the OT outlined certain condition so that we could recognize him when he got here. Jesus didn't meet those conditions.
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Hence you are a farce john
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It should be easy to prove me wrong. So why don't you try?
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Oh believe me john.. it is very clear that you are a complete jerk!
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You start off clever and just get better and better.
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right? whats right john? you lost me completely john.
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You'll get used to it.
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Maybe you dont have anything you can be overwhelmed above you john.
except your jerkness..geek.
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Overwhelmed above me?
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Yet ANOTHER snide remark from someone who claims to know the
completness of the Holy Bible..but is bent on his own understanding.
ie: John the complete jerk.
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Snide? Funkie and I are having a nice conversation.
quote:
now that you are a grown man john, can we suggest that you grow up and instead of just seeing what happened in church, to go there now and learn this time?
You mean so I can be like you?
quote:
And since you dont believe in God, why do you think that the same should be taught in bible college. (a place we will never see you in lol).
jerk

What?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 191 of 225 (23768)
11-22-2002 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by graedek
11-22-2002 3:37 PM


First off there LL, I already tried the blow up and rant thing, it's a good way to lose any kind of respect you might have hoped to had from the other people here on this site. Secondly sometimes you have to admit to being wrong. You are human, you are flawed, you can be wrong I know this site can be difficult sometimes it's quite humbling actually, shows you what you don't know. Yes John is frustrating when you don't know your stuff take it from me he's good at this. You will also find he's actually a pretty good guy. He boiled my blood when i first came on here, but realize this is a discussion forum and if you post something you better expect someone to contradict you. May the peace of God rule in your heart, that you will not be shaken or dismayed.
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joz
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Message 192 of 225 (23769)
11-22-2002 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by John
11-22-2002 4:13 PM


Hey John since he has renamed you maybe we should do him the same service, i.e Nether Lips, Front Bottom or some other euphemism for C!?t.....
Whats that saying again "those who live by the sword"....

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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 193 of 225 (23772)
11-22-2002 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by joz
11-22-2002 4:38 PM


I know ol' LL is way out of line. But i'm getting frustrated with the actual conversation getting burried. Personally i'd like to see almost all the posts since yesterday completely removed from this thread. Other than John's response to me which is now completely burried in trash and i almost missed trying to skim through this garbage talk. We're all above this kind of thing i think, I hope. Although i laughed my chickens off at the interest in John's choice of underwear.
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6506 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 194 of 225 (23798)
11-22-2002 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by John
11-22-2002 3:16 PM


quote:
Originally posted by John:
That was BRILLIANT, Mammuthus.
LOL......
I'm in tears and my sides hurt....


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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6506 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 195 of 225 (23799)
11-22-2002 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by funkmasterfreaky
11-22-2002 5:03 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
[B]I know ol' LL is way out of line. But i'm getting frustrated with the actual conversation getting burried. Personally i'd like to see almost all the posts since yesterday completely removed from this thread. Other than John's response to me which is now completely burried in trash and i almost missed trying to skim through this garbage talk. We're all above this kind of thing i think, I hope. Although i laughed my chickens off at the interest in John's choice of underwear.
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Hi Funkmasterfreaky,
I actually disagree..I think that the posts should stay and not just because LL was really funny to read...I was impressed that Chara and Forgiven stepped in and tried to calm LL down. Even without Admin intervening, the board is now returning back to the topic at hand...It is nice to see that most of us can debate (even if we completely disagree with each other) but still manage to keep the debate relatively civil (well, I was not really that civil in most of my posts today..ahem)...but just in case it gets out of hand..the undergarment comments can be brought to action if you want to start where you left off with John..you can bump the posts of interest and then take of from there again...todays posts will fade into the background in any case.
Best wishes,
Mammuthus

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