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Kapyong
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Message 134 of 144 (499667)
02-19-2009 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by John 10:10
02-18-2009 8:02 PM


Gday,
John 10:10 writes:
Until then, it's just an unproven theory, and will always remain so.
Sadly,
you still don't even grasp the meanings of the basic term "theory".
THEORY has 2 meanings
It is all too common for people to confuse the two meanings of the word "theory".
In popular terms, "theory" means a guess, or speculation. Thus the common phrase "just a theory" meaning "just speculation".
But,
in scientific terms, there is another, different, meaning to the word "theory" - it means an EXPLANATION.
Theories EXPLAIN facts
Theories explain the facts we observe :
Gravity is a fact, we observe its effects.
Gravitational Theory describes how gravity works.
Electricity is a fact, we use it everyday.
Electromagnetic Theory explains the details of how it operates.
Germs are a fact.
Germ Theory explains how they cause disease.
Evolution is a fact, it is observed.
The Theory of Evolution explains how it works.
the ToE is an EXPLANATION, NOT speculation
The Theory of Evolution is NOT "speculation about evolution" - that is NOT what the phrase means at all.
Rather -
the Theory of Evolution is the EXPLANATION for how evolution works, it models the behaviour of the FACTS of evolution, and allows predictions to be made.
Just as Electromagnetic Theory is the explanation or model of how electricity works.
Would one say "electricity is just a theory" ?
Of course not.
And Gravitational Theory is the explanation or model of how gravity works.
Would one say "gravity is just a theory" ?
Of course not.
And Germ Theory is the explanation or model of how germs cause disease.
Would one say "germs are just a theory" ?
Of course not.
Yet
some people say
"evolution is (just) a theory"
as if it means
"evolution is merely untested speculation" (false)
when it really only means
"evolution is an explanation, or model" (true)
Claiming "evolution is just a theory" indicates lack of understanding of the word, and how science operates, and that the ToE is an explanation for observed facts.
Kapyong

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Kapyong
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Message 135 of 144 (499670)
02-19-2009 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by John 10:10
02-18-2009 8:23 PM


Re: Do you read what was posted?
gday,
John 10:10 writes:
And when you prove in a lab how the facts came to be as they are to a high degree of accuracy, then the theory becomes a scientific law.
Wrong.
Completely wrong.
That's your problem John - you simply don't grasp what these terms mean, nor how science actually works.
Theories do NOT graduate to laws when "proven".
But creationists always get this wrong.
K.

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Kapyong
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Message 136 of 144 (499673)
02-19-2009 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by John 10:10
02-18-2009 9:35 PM


Re: Do you read what was posted?
Gday,
John 10:10 writes:
According to this definition, theories can be upgraded to laws.
John -
the quote you posted specifically says :
"This misconception"
In other words, you read something that DISAGREED with you, but your reading comprehension is so bad, you think it AGREED with you.
K.

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