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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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And for the record, no--I'm not going to say in my own words what the speaker can and does say far more eloquently.
Thanks for confirming that it is not worth watching.
If you angrily refuse to peruse it, its your loss.
No anger here. However, communication via youtube video seems a horribly ineffective method, in addition to wasting a lot of time. Sure, I watch some videos when I think I can learn from them. But when the title suggests Christian Apologetics, I will give it a pass.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Reality will show you what all of the "evidence" that you worship has failed to do.
Just a little hint -- youtube videos are not reality.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Amazon Begins Censoring Books
Amazon made a business decision on how best to maximize their profits. This isn't censorship -- it is capitalism.
I must say that I side with the conservatives on this one. This whole idea of relativism as a world view is wrong on so many levels.
Conservatives are relativists. They deny that, of course. But you only have to watch them to see their relativism at work.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Isaiah explains basic Christianity quite well. It starts with Jesus. Those two contradict one another. If it starts with Jesus, the Isaiah wasn't talking about Christianity at all.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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One must learn to differentiate between the glory of almighty God, ...
That's mostly something that happens in your imagination.
, ... and the evil that has been done in His name.
And that is all to evident in the world.
Jesus said "No one gets to the Father except through me."
Jesus often spoke in metaphors. Christianity is all about taking those metaphors as if they were intended literally, and taking the ideas intended as literal as if they were metaphors.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Faith in Christ is all we need.
But what does that mean? Jesus said that we should love our neighbor. For me, faith meant that we should follow those teachings even when we were doubtful of their value. But, for most Christians, faith means believing is a ridiculous made up story.
Like many on this forum I was once mired in the same Naturalism / evolution doctrine that had been preached to me since I was a child.
Oh, good. Perhaps you can tell me what is this naturalism doctrine. I am frequently accused of naturalism, but I have never been able to work out what it even means. An actual presentation of the doctrine would be helpful.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Naturalism is the belief, taught in elementary school science texts, that all things in the universe have a "natural" explanation.
I don't think I was ever taught that. Yes, we should look for a natural explanation. But there's no guarantee that we will always find one.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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ringo charges me with making Him up. I didnt write the book, however.
But that's the whole point. Much of what you believe does not come from the book. It has been spoon fed to you by religious con men.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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One question that I have currently for Theodoric and his charge that my entire inner and outer personality is based on assumptions is how does this differ from anybody else? Facts can only take you so far.
I am not Theodoric, so I'll answer for myself. Yes, it could be said that my life is based on assumptions. But they are assumptions that have been well tested. Actually, I don't really think my life is based on assumptions. My life is based on practices that have turned out to work. We often describe that in terms of beliefs and assumptions, but the belief story seems completely wrong. When a child tries to walk, she does not make assumptions about the world or about whether the ground is solid. She just tries to walk. And if she falls, then she tries again in a different way. Eventually she become proficient in walk. But she learned that through trial and error, not through beliefs and assumptions. With religion, you try out prayer. And it doesn't work. But, because of the indoctrination, you keep trying instead of moving on to try something else.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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This real life snapshot of what I see nearly EVERY day at my job in ever increasing similarities was not the fault of conservatives. Of course it was the fault of conservatives. But you are too blind to see that.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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I will put you down as completely and thoroughly anti-Christian.
Conservative economics has hollowed out the economy, with most of the income going to the already rich. And Phat fails to understand why there is a homeless problem. Jesus would have been out their helping the homeless. But American fake Christians instead see the homeless as a problem. Rather than helping, they hide themselves away in gated communities and whine that Seattle is dying. They could be hiring some of the home, which would at least give them enough income to feed themselves. But conservative fake Christians would rather hire people in Bangladesh because their labor is cheaper. Democrats at least attempt to enact legislation to assist the homeless. But the fake Christians block that legislation. If we invest in the community, we will have a better and healthier community. We will have a community where Seattle is not dying. That's an enormous return on investment. But fake Christians such as Phat don't allow that to count, because they only look at returns that show up in their own bank balance. Shame on you Phat, and shame on all of the fake Christians that think like you.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
With regard to my use of the expression "fake Christians", here are some links:
Why are so many evangelicals so un-Christian?The Evangelical Church is Breaking Apart Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation The last of those is a book. Perhaps someone might like to start a Book Nook thread on it.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Your response indicates that you are as racist as I am charged to be. Perhaps you should explain, because I don't see anything racist in Theodoric's post.
I am aware of the whole theory of White Privilege but am appalled that you feel allowed to vilify the white race for such an event in History. Again, an explanation is missing. I'm white, and I suspect that Theodoric is probably white. I don't feel at all villified by anything he wrote.
ringo, ignoring his belief that the Bible is merely a product of man and that God and Jesus never existed, still tries to pin me down with my own supposed belief. Then you are seriously misunderstanding what ringo writes.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
My last post is more in line with the world I live in. I do not have an easy answer to the homeless issue. Perhaps there are no easy answers. Our world today is very different from the world at the time of Jesus. We have changed the world in many ways. But perhaps some of our changes are harmful to some people. Here's a news item that I saw this morning:
‘The beaches belong to the people’: inside Puerto Rico’s anti-gentrification protests That's about a development project that might be creating homelessness in Puerto Rico. Perhaps when we try to change the world, we should think more about those who will not benefit from the changes.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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I was just mad that you somehow knew that I had inherited my condo. I'm pretty sure that you told us that in a post at evcforum. Maybe you should be mad at yourself.
It scares me and this is one reason I keep researching the solvency of the United States. Honestly, just stop voting for Republicans. They are the ones who are itching to steal what's in the Social Security Trust fund.
I vent on this forum about shoplifters because it really irritates all of us at work. You depend on insulin. Have you noticed how overpriced that is? Is that overpricing a form of theft? Why get so excited about the few dollars stolen by poor folk, when the very rich are ripping of billions at a time?Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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