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Message 76 of 82 (712196)
11-28-2013 7:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 75 by ringo
11-17-2013 2:07 PM

Re: Belief and Sanity
Ringo writes:

I don't see how humility and obedience go together.

Jesus is a perfect example.
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Message 77 of 82 (712202)
11-28-2013 8:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
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Re: Belief and Sanity
Ah, the Synoptic Jesus and not the John/Paul Jesus. Got it.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 78 of 82 (712211)
11-29-2013 5:00 AM 		Reply to: Message 77 by jar
11-28-2013 8:26 PM

Re: Belief and Sanity
Both are the same person.
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Message 79 of 82 (712217)
11-29-2013 8:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 78 by Phat
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Re: Belief and Sanity
I know that you say that but is that what the stories say?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 80 of 82 (712227)
11-29-2013 11:09 AM 		Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
11-28-2013 7:08 PM

Re: Belief and Sanity
Phat writes:

ringo writes:

I don't see how humility and obedience go together.


Jesus is a perfect example.

Jesus claimed to be the son of God - not very humble. He went to the cross reluctantly - not very obedient.
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Message 81 of 82 (825970)
12-20-2017 9:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 48 by Faith
11-11-2013 5:23 PM

Re: Doubt is healthy...keep doubting
Faith writes:

There's nothing "healthy" about doubt, nothing admirable either; doubt is simply our natural state, a legacy from the Fall. You all keep trying to make it into a virtue it just isn't.

Is doubt the same as questioning? Are you saying that for a believer to be strongest is when they dont question and doubt?

Would you say that God, as you know Him, would rather have us simply ignore any questions and/or doubts and simply believe?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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Message 82 of 82 (826000)
12-20-2017 2:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 81 by Phat
12-20-2017 9:28 AM

Re: Doubt is healthy...keep doubting
Phat writes:

Are you saying that for a believer to be strongest is when they dont question and doubt?


Believers often mistake "strong belief" for not bothering to think it through. They demonstrate "strong belief" by:

1. Saying something off the top of their head.
2. Calling people "itrrational" when they're proven wrong.
3. Screaming insults.
4. Running away.

That may be "strong belief' but who wants it?

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