Atheism isn't a belief?

Atheism is a disbelief in any supreme being responsible for all creation (God) but a belief that there is no (GOD). I think they are a bit confused because who do they accredit there own existence?
It must have come from something greater, no?

To whom do you accredit the laws of Nature? Is there a beginning of accrediting? My answer would be No, Somthing or perhaps som-nonthing must have always existed. If you think that's illogical. Than your own existence is illogical. My God is Eternal. Meaning he had no Beginning He is everlasting. And so is the something greater of something greater of something greater of something greater.... Eternity has no beginning, nor end.

I apologize Laura, I did say that "my God" is Eternal. I did not mean to impress or attempt to convert you in any way. Yes, It is my opinion, and that's my belief. Though I'm curious what natural process do you accredit the laws of nature to? Why is there anything existing at all? Do anything have to exist? Why was there something and not nothing? I choose to say that Someone greater beyond my comprehension (the infinite) is responsible. Why is there gravity? Did know how to make it or how to create an entire universe? Is it for things to come from nothing? Not in materialistic logic. Though I assume that you're a materialist and only believe in what you can see. Well from my understanding all material we see can be reduced to literally nothing. From molecules to Atoms to Electrons, neutrons, and protons, to quarks, and then to photons, from photons we hypothesize particles and wavelenghts, and from wavelengths we have nothing. Absolutely nothing as in to base matter from. Does that make sense to you? It does to me. There is nothing natural about it. Science has stepped into the Supernatural.
This is where and why quantum physics has been developed. Now it's my opinion that we've stepped into the Spiritual. We don't hear much about Quantum Theory because it involves questions that we can perhaps never answer. An idea? It's my opinion this idea could be (information). But where does this information come from? There must be a source for this information. Fortunately, we're narrowing the gap between the physical and spiritual. Quantum theory attempts to that all things come from this non-material information. So to sum this up, everything you see, smell, touch, taste, feel, and sense is actually a matterless unity held together by this information being, in my opinion, the word of God. (John 1:1-14) (Genesis 1:1 - 31) His command. In brief, (John 1:1-14)explains that: In the beginning was the , and the was with God, and the was God. It also tells us that "all things were made by him" (his Word, God himself). Continuing (Genesis 1:1-31) demonstrates how God spoke things into existance. Not suprisingly, the first thing God spoke into existance was light.(Genesis 1:3) "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." What science has found is that all matter is made of light(photons->patricles->wavelengths->supernatural). All things are made from light. Though it takes faith to believe or not believe in things. I respect your faith in naturalism. I am assured in my own faith in the Word of God.
(1) The Hidden Face of God, Gerald Schroeder
pg. 4.(paraphrased)

I apologize Laura, I did say that "my God" is Eternal. I did not mean to impress or attempt to convert you in any way. Yes, It is my opinion, and that's my belief. Though I'm curious what natural process do you accredit the laws of nature to? Why is there anything existing at all? Does anything have to exist? Why was there something and not nothing? I choose to say that Someone greater beyond my comprehension (the infinite) is responsible. Why is there gravity? Did nothing know how to make it or how to create an entire universe? Is it natural for things to come from nothing? Not in materialistic logic. Though I assume that you're a materialist and only believe in what you can see. Well from my understanding all material we see can be reduced to literally nothing. From molecules to Atoms to Electrons, neutrons, and protons, to quarks, and then to photons, from photons we hypothesize particles and wavelenghts, and from wavelengths we have nothing. Absolutely nothing as in no-thing to base matter from. Does that make sense to you? It does to me. There is nothing natural about it. Science has stepped into the Supernatural.
This is where and why quantum physics has been developed. Now it's my opinion that we've stepped into the Spiritual. We don't hear much about Quantum Theory because it involves questions that we can perhaps never answer. "Yet, today when Universities around the world look into this non-material conundrum, they say that it is actually an expression of an Idea."(1) An idea? It's my opinion this idea could be (information). But where does this information come from? There must be a source for this information. Fortunately, we're narrowing the gap between the physical and spiritual. Quantum theory attempts to unify that all things come from this non-material information. So to sum this up, everything you see, smell, touch, taste, feel, and sense is actually a matterless unity held together by this information being, in my opinion, the word of God. (John 1:1-14) (Genesis 1:1 - 31) His command. In brief, (John 1:1-14)explains that: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. It also tells us that "all things were made by him" (his Word, God himself). Continuing (Genesis 1:1-31) demonstrates how God spoke things into existance. Not suprisingly, the first thing God spoke into existance was light.(Genesis 1:3) "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." What science has found is that all matter is made of light(photons->patricles->wavelengths->supernatural). All things are made from light. Though it takes faith to believe or not believe in things. I respect your faith in naturalism. I am assured in my own faith in the Word of God.
(1) The Hidden Face of God, Gerald Schroeder
pg. 4.(paraphrased)

Well, I think you're right. You probably don't Have any faith. My response was to Laura. Who claimed to be an atheist and yes claimed that she was an atheist. About these "tricky questions," I'd say these questions are fundimentally what drive scientists, and probably even you. Also, I agree in your belief that there is really nothing material that does not come from a spiritual basis. My god is a spirit (John 4:24). My God is also invisible (Col 1:15).

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I'm not saying that there is a separation from spiritual to non spiritual. I am saying the nature of the two are different. This is because One is creator,and one is the fruit of the other. I believe that all things natural are connected to a unifying source. And when I say a unifying source, I mean a solid explanation for all things. I believe science is seeking to discover the source. When I say supernatural, I mean one who is the creator and of course outside of physical laws. I say this only because, believe it or not, the laws of physics had an origin. The fact is that there seems to be an inherant order to the workings of the universe. And now scientifically, there is no doubt a oneness, a prelude to a unified theory to this order of all things that we can physically sense. Basically, there is only one explanation and truth to why it's all here. Science knows and understands this, and has created it's own faiths in order to have it all make sense.
In the words of The Nuclear Physicist, Gerald Schroeder :"We humans like to label things, wrap our minds around a concept, to define and package it; in essense to limit it so that the concept finds harmony within our human definition of logic. But how does someone label or even think about that which is not part of our physical world? Confining the metaphysical to a physical description totally misses the "meta" aspect." (1) I will now attempt to explain biblically why my faith carries weight.
The Bible's definition of Who God Is can be summed in a few words: 1.He is One: (Deut.6:4) says The Lord Our God is One Lord. John 1:3, says that all things were made by him. And Hebrews 1:3 says that all things are upheld by the Word of his Power. I think this means that every thing in existance is actually held in existance by his word. The very reason we see nothing and boggle at why nothing is the basis of all matter is because we are not looking at a thing at all, we are looking at the Power of his Word, the "expression of an idea" that we cannot explain. And his word is in fact invisible.
2. He is Invisible: The Bible says(paraphrased) God is Invisible (Col.1:15). This explains why we cannot find him. This is why non-believers will not give him the credit; they can't see him. They would rather assume we popped out of nowhere from nothing and propogate a religion claiming that it must be true. Even if there is no proof for the assumption (i.e. God is not possible).
3. He is Eternal: (Deut 33:27), 2 Co.4:18 tells us that the things which we can see are in fact temporal, meaning they will not last forever. It also tells us that the things which are not seen (invisible, metaphysical, faith required) are in fact eternal. In short, the God of the Bible, (Jew, Christain, Muslim) is this one unified thing that ties all and holds all together. Scientists won't deny that there is a unified theory, simply because we inherantly know that only one unifying truth exists. If the God of the Bible claims to be who he says he is and can do what he says he can do, then it perfectly aligns with the unity of all things and the mysterious, invisible non-thing which is at the root of all things.This message has been edited by Physrho, 08-31-2005 01:32 AM