We are really way off-topic here. I've avoided responding to some of your posts in this thread because it had drifted off topic.
I'll respond this once, but probably not again unless we open a new topic for the discussion. If you want to continue this discussion, you might want to open a suitable "Proposed New Topic".
riVeRraT writes:
To many people in here treat the word science, like a noun. It is not a noun, it is a verb.
Sorry to break the news, but "science" is a noun. Still, there is something to what you say. For science isn't purely passive. Although science is considered by some to be a system of beliefs, it is really more of a system of methodologies. So it has to do with action, even if the word itself is a noun.
One exapmle is freon.
I have a question on freon. I was under the impression that it was being phased out, to be replaced by other refrigerants. As someone working in that area, maybe you can update me on that.
By the way, I am glad to see your concern for the atmosphere.
Does science always go in a righteous direction? Or is powered by money, war, greed? How is the knowledge that we chase after applied?
"Righteous" is not a technical term, and is the wrong question to ask about science.
I think we need to distinguish between science, and the applications of science (often engineering). Most of the abuse of science, what you might consider unrighteous, is in the application rather than in the science itself. And many scientists are concerned about such misuse when it occurs.
People in here say that knowledge byitself, which represents science does not do any harm.
I agree with those who say science normally does no harm. But some of the applications of science are harmful, and I think that is what you are talking about.
WTF are we doing to this planet? We have the ability to stop it, but money and greed would never let it happen.
I am as concerned as you. But let's not blame the scientists. The "doing" is being done by businesses and politicians. Worse still, many people who claim to be deeply religious Christians are involved in the insane raping of the planet.
If I hear the gravity comparison in this forum one more time, I think I will flip out. Gravity does not = science.
Sorry to tell you, but it is pretty likely to come up again (and again, and again, ...)
Is science going to save us, or kill us?
Scientists can only do their best and provide the best advice that they can. Regrettably politicians and businesses, driven by greed, will refuse to take their advice until it is too late, or almost too late.
Do you believe in evolution? If you do, then I think there is a distinct possibilty that we are going to evolve ourselves right off the planet.
I accept the theory of evolution, while perhaps occasionally criticizing it in its current form. But I don't "believe in evolution". A scientific theory is not something to believe in. It is something to understand, and to use as a guide where appropriate. I am not a biologist, so evolution is not central to my work although I have found it a useful guide.
I think "evolve ourselves off the planet," while colorful, is the wrong way to describe the situation. Yes, our species could go extinct if we continue in our path of destruction, but that wouldn't be a case of evolving ourselves off the planet.
Evolution relies on mutations, and selection right?
Those are important parts of the "mechanism" (I think "mechanism" is a poor term here, but it is what people often use).
Well while we pump ourselves full of unatural chemicals, our bodies will then evolve around that, and if science can't keep up, then it may all come crumbling down in our faces. We will evolve into being an unnatural species on this planet, relying on our own abilities, which are BTW limited.
I now see why you used "evolve ourselves right off the planet." But I don't expect it to happen that way. What I see as more likely, is that we will damage the environment to such an extent that it can no longer produce the food we need to feed the world's population. And then there might be wars, as people fight over who gets to use the dwindling resources. It is hard to predict the eventual outcome, but for sure we are heading toward danger.
If that day comes, you better hope that we were designed, and God knew it was going to happen, and he designed protection for us into our bodies.
One of my concerns is that there are Christians in high places who ignore these problems. They believe that the second coming will occur in the nick of time to rescue us from all of the destruction that we cause to the planet.
I believe that they are seriously mistaken. I see it as our responsibilty to take care of nature, to replenish the earth.
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