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Lysimachus
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Message 56 of 92 (119099)
06-26-2004 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Lithodid-Man
06-25-2004 11:16 PM


Re: Could LM be the messiah?
Skeptics skeptic skeptics....skeptics toward the word of God. "As the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Matt. 24:37-39. So sad...so sad indeed. But painfully true.
What is amazing is that all the skeptics against the Bible are fulfilling prophecy, so although it breaks my heart that such skeptics exist, I say to them "thank you for fulfilling prophecy", for if you were not skeptical against God's existence, then the prophecy would not prove true.
Skeptics will forever until the end of time continue to discredit the Bible by finding seemingly inconsistencies and apparent contradictories. This is only hurting them, and God looks down with weeping tears upon them because he knows their hearts. He knows that in their inmost souls they do not want to have to submit to a higher power but rather do as they please.
The world in it's current condition is showing signs of God's soon appearing. The immorality that is teaming everywhere. Gay rights and homosexuality is becoming more and more rampant as in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. The years pass by and skeptics and athiests continue to say "Jesus is never going to come...look...everything is as was before, and people have been saying that for years!" Sad to say, that is the exact language that was used of inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, and those before the flood. Scientists declared that a flood was "scientifically impossible"!
So shall it be in the last days when Christ appears in the clouds. People will be drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, until Christ comes "as a theif in the night" (when they least expect it).
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.-- 1 Thess. 5:2
When this day comes upon us, all the skeptics, all the athiests, all the unbelievers, all the wicked, all the lovers of sin will stare in the skies and say to themselves "we knew all along that you were there, but we did not want to admit it".
....There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
What a sad day that will be. I just pray that as many skeptics as there are, some will wake up some day and see the reality of their impending doom. God wants to see them saved more than we can possibly comprehend, but since God is a loving God, He has given us will-power---the power to choose. If those who decide to not choose Him, God has no choice but to destroy them.
This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 06-26-2004 06:53 PM

~Lysimachus

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Lysimachus
Member (Idle past 5221 days)
Posts: 380
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 58 of 92 (119127)
06-27-2004 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Coragyps
06-26-2004 9:03 PM


Re: Could LM be the messiah?
It is all loving. He doesn't destroy them, he destroys sin. When God sends his fire to destroy the wicked, the fire is aimed at destroying sin, and sin alone. However, since man has will power, he can choose to either give up sin, or hold on to sin (therefore he becomes attached to sin). Sin is what? It is the transgression of the Law.Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4
So God destroys sin, and if man attaches himself to sin, what happens? The individual is destroyed with the sin. It is the individual who attaches himself to sin and gets destroyed along with it because he was unwilling to give up his/her sins. He chose to cling to them in favor of eternal life.
So afterall, God is still a loving God. He loves the sinner, but not the sin. Sin will be no more, and all those who cling and attach themselves to sin automatically get destroyed with it. It was there choice, not God's. God has no choice in the sense that if man chooses to become one with sin, He cannot force them otherwise.
This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 06-26-2004 11:19 PM

~Lysimachus

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Lysimachus
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Posts: 380
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 62 of 92 (119596)
06-28-2004 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Gilgamesh
06-28-2004 4:44 AM


Re: Could LM be the messiah?
Gilgamesh,
I'm not going to argue with you. I told you like it is, and you will just have to wait and see until the day of judgement. Only then will you see what I mean. Jesus is coming and he's coming soon. The world's population is nearing it's zeneth point, and one day all the world will wonder after beast of Revelation (one new world order of religion). But God's faithful will stand in that trying day and not give in to the beast and his image, but will uphold the Law of God (The Ten Commandments) which will be contrary to the laws of men.

~Lysimachus

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Lysimachus
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Posts: 380
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 64 of 92 (119701)
06-28-2004 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Cold Foreign Object
06-28-2004 6:56 PM


Re: Stunning Prophecy Fulfillment
I'm not a fundie either. I don't belong to any church organization. I'm simply a Bible believing Christian.
The term "Fundamentalist" is a term in which tradition has coined as for various denominations around the world. I do not believe in denominations. The Bible never says we have to belong to a denomination. Also, God never meant for his "church" to be a denomination. God's church simply stands for all those who are faithful, not a building.
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Lysimachus
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Posts: 380
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 67 of 92 (119936)
06-29-2004 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Gilgamesh
06-29-2004 2:08 AM


Re: Stunning Prophecy Fulfillment
Within the realms of faith, there is a great possibility of error. That is why we have to constantly be on guard and pray that we are not deceived. But when it enters the realms of secularlism that leaves God out of the picture, we Christians know that we've entered into forbidden realms.
There is nothing wrong for Christians to adapt to the new environment of the world. I'm adapting all the time--technology, dress, etc. But when it comes to moral values of which the Bible clearly speaks against (such as Romans 1 on the sinfulness of homosexuality "men with men and women with women receiving their own recompence", etc.), and the world starts to push us to accept these ideas, we are expected from God to uphold these values.
As far as adapting to our environment, there is nothing wrong as long as it doesn't contradict scripture. But of the morals of our nations start to decline and blatantly do sins that are contrary to scripture, we as Christians must stand like a rock and not waver in the slightest.
God blessed America because it was founded on Christian principles (even though there were many unchristian principles intermingled). However, I want you to notice a trend. The more America begins to bring down the morals of this country, the more God's Holy Spirit will be withdrawn from this nation and will be less protected. As America continues to decline (i.e. by allowing gay marriages to finally take full sway nation wide), terrorism will begin to increase, and the security of this nation will begin to decline as far as providing the necessary security for this country. This nation will begin to rapidly decline, and it will be no longer a country of safety.
God is trying to tell America to wake up, but instead, are drifting away from moral principles. The more America drifts away from moral principles, the more you will see danger and insecurity increase.
I will adhere to the fact that fundamentalism is ever declining. Liberalism is taking full sway. However, there will be a small gruop of people who will not be influenced in the slightest. These people are the last group who will stand faithful like a rock in whom Christ will finally say "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus"-- Revelation 14:12
In addition to this, [i]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.--Matthew 7:14
Christians around the world are of great number, but that number is declining, and new ideas are springing forth throughout the world. Liberals, atheists, etc. are telling us "it's time to start thinking in 21st century terms...be-rid of fundamentalism" Let's come to face the new ideas taking sway"---which is why it is a known fact that Christianity is slowly waning.
So you see, this was prophecied. This is supposed to happen. But here we are told that "FEW" will find the straight and narrow gate. This is telling us that even as many Christians as there are, few will find it, (because many will be lead astray by new ideas).
This remnant few are what the Bible labels as the "144,000" who do not receive the mark of the beast, but have no guile in their mouths and why symbolically receive the seal of God in their foreheads.
These remaining few will be persecuted at the end. They will be scoffed at for their faith and told that they are in "the old school". Then is when the Lord will appear in the clouds and say to the world Revelation 14:12, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus". What a sad day it will be. Most of the world's population will reject God, but to think that God is willing to wait as long as He has been for even a FEW, shows us His wonderful love.
For the first time ever, Christ's character will be fully reproduced, and the world will finally know there were truly a people who really loved Him and did not base their beliefs on the customs and practices of the world.
This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 06-29-2004 09:29 AM

~Lysimachus

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Lysimachus
Member (Idle past 5221 days)
Posts: 380
Joined: 05-30-2004


Message 84 of 92 (120830)
07-01-2004 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Gilgamesh
07-01-2004 1:57 AM


Re: Stunning Prophecy Fulfillment
I don't have time to answer everything that was addressed, since not only am I involved with a hundred other more important topics, but have a broken leg which I'm trying to take care of.
First, let me say that nowhere did I say that there are only 144,000 who will be saved. There will be millions upon millions, "a great multitude" of people who will be saved. 144,000 will be the survivors at the end who will not experience death, that is all. The number 144,000 seems to be a lot if you ask me, since it is rare that you find any true sincere christians these days who are will to do what is right and follow their concience.
Gilgamish, my beliefs are very unique from popular christianity. I believe that Protestantism will one day unite with Catholicism, as prophecied in Daniel and Revelation. A national Sunday Law will be instituded, intitiated by America, and then the rest of the nations will follow. At this point in time, it seems impossible. What will make this possible is that there will be increased catastrophes world wide--including hurricanes, tidle waves, earthquakes, and deadly storms. As the laws of nature begin to take sway to the point where humanity is incapable of handling them, religious leaders will appeal to congress to bring about religious laws so that "this nation will come back to God". The United States (the little lamb that eventually speaks as a dragon) will unite herself with the Papacy, and together will enforce a subtly enforce international Sunday Laws to which all nations will eventually come to accept. (it will be a law of concience, wherease we will not be able to buy or sell if we do not sign an agreement that Sunday is sacred, not necessarily that we have to attend church). This will be the final test for God's true people.
Will the true Christian comprimise with a man-made law? Or will he uphold the Ten Commandments that the Seventh-Day (Saturday) is the Sabbath of which God said "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
God's Law which was written in stone will be changed, and God's true Sabbath of which is the day that He rested in commemoration of His 7-day creation will be hammered upon. Man will attempt to change the Law of God, but it shall not happen. His faithful few will uphold the 10 commandments and not submit to the Papal powers.
In order to understand more of what I believe concerning end-time prophecies, I recommend you read this booklet, "The Beast, The Dragon, and The Woman":
http://www.nisbett.com/prophecy/bdw/beast_dragon_woman.htm
This study will also show that the prophecies of the 1260 days have come true to an EXACT fulfillment. I trust you will read the whole thing.

~Lysimachus

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