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JonF
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Message 24 of 92 (113556)
06-08-2004 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by almeyda
06-08-2004 8:30 AM


Scientist cannot prove the age of the earth.
THey can't prove it to you becaeuse you are not willing to examine the evidence objectively, or even to examine the evidence at all.
However, scientists can and have proven the age of the Earth (as much as anytiong is ever proven in science). Reality is not affected by your denial.

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JonF
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Message 41 of 92 (113838)
06-09-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by almeyda
06-09-2004 9:05 AM


You dont believe the evidence of Jesus who actually was eyewitnessd,
Actually, we don't have any eyewitness accounts of Jesus' resurrection.
We have some second- and third-hand accounts that claim that there were eyewitnesses, and there are significant contradictions between those accounts.
FWIW, it is also well-known that eyewitness testimony is one of the very most inaccurate forms of evidence. Lawyers love 'em because juries tend to believe 'em, but eyewitness testimony is almost guaranteed to be false in several particulars and often is false in all particulars. I love the "gorilla in the midst" experiment. From Technology Intelligence: Latest news & opinion - The Telegraph:
quote:
Simons came up with another demonstration that has now become a classic, based on a videotape of a handful of people playing basketball. They played the tape to subjects and asked them to count the passes made by one of the teams.
Around half failed to spot a woman dressed in a gorilla suit who walked slowly across the scene for nine seconds, even though this hairy interloper had passed between the players and stopped to face the camera and thump her chest.
However, if people were simply asked to view the tape, they noticed the gorilla easily. The effect is so striking that some of them refused to accept they were looking at the same tape and thought that it was a different version of the video, one edited to include the ape.
(Read the link, there are several other interesting experiments described).
The video referred to can be viewed at the experimenter's web site, http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/djs_lab/.

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JonF
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Message 44 of 92 (113844)
06-09-2004 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by almeyda
06-09-2004 9:14 AM


Dating methods are fallible
Well, yes, in the sense that they occasionally can produce an error. But they do not always or even often produce error.
Whatever it may be dating methods are based on assumptions. Eugenie Scott herself said this also.
Eugenie Scott is not an expert on radioisotope dating. Nonetheless, please produce the source of this claim. And, BTW, "based on assumptions" is not evidence foir "is invalid".
And no Eugenie is not my only evidence proving dating methods must be invalid.
Ah, I'll bet my salary for a year that you have no evidence that dating methods must be invalid, other than your preconceptions. I'll propose a thread ...

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JonF
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Message 45 of 92 (113889)
06-09-2004 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by crashfrog
06-09-2004 9:50 AM


I would point out that "hairy interloper" is a descriptor that might easily apply to a number of posters at this forum (including, uncharacteristically for amphibians, myself.)
The Hairy Interlopers would be a good name for a rock band.

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