Karens Bible writes:
Then in 1 Cor.14,34-35, Paul says " As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak and should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a women to speak in the church."
Purpledawn writes:
There's a difference between women asking their husbands questions and a woman who is prophesying. Sorta like the women talking in the backrow of the church as opposed to the woman reading the lesson or preaching today.One is disturbance and the other is participation.
There seems to be a number of things contained within Karens passage which need teasing out. What do you reckon on things like "silence" I understand that if men and women were segregated then shouts across the church would be disturbing - but one would imagine that common manners applied in those days and that folk had figured out a a way of meeting in all kinds of circumstances without pandamonium. Why would it suddenly occur in the church. Did it occur in the synagoge? Hardly.
It seem to mention silence - period. Does that mean men could talk quietly amongst themselves and women couldn't. I would have imagined that if men talking among themselves didn't upset the preacher (presuming they did it that way) then the women who were positioned further back would have had an even less effect.
It seems to indicate that the discussing and decision making was for the men and not the women. Men leading and women following? Difficult that...
There is this difficult issue of subordination as the law says. If its the case of rightful behaviour and not works as you hold in the other thread, what does it mean here. The spirit of the law is that a woman is to be subordinate. Like "wives obey your husband"
I don't mean to debate you intensely on it PD, but just curious as to what position you hold - especially given the increased emphasis on equality of the sexes these days.
Then there is the issue of prophesying. This is not the same as speaking - which is the person themselves at work. Prophesying involves the action of the Holy Spirit speaking through the person. This naturally won't be forbidden.
This message has been edited by iano, 25-Nov-2005 07:04 PM
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