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Author Topic:   The Tree of Life as God's Life
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 7 of 292 (267215)
12-09-2005 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by jaywill
12-09-2005 1:44 PM


Re: Adam Created Eternal
the tree of knowledge was not supposed to remove immortality. it was supposed to cause IMMEDIATE DEATH, not eventual death, not suffering, not disease, but IMMEDIATE DEATH. why didn't it? maybe god lied. maybe god was merciful. not for me to say. but man was not created immortal. suggesting that man (and assumedly the animals) were created immortal and yet acknowledge that the animals were ordered to multiply and that trees (etc) produced fruit it foolish. sure maybe people would have lived longer in order to be able to produce more offspring (if they did in fact and the world was empty etc), but, for one, it creates a false dichotomy in the value of the life of a man or animal and the life of a plant. life is life. commanded reproduction is commanded reproduction. if god is a creator of order (as he says he is), he would not draw such a dichotomy.

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Message 8 of 292 (267216)
12-09-2005 2:11 PM
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12-09-2005 1:54 PM


Re: Adam Created Eternal
i agree that god was looking to create a companion and not a surf, but you are getting a bit confusing in your mysticism.

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Message 10 of 292 (267229)
12-09-2005 2:44 PM
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12-09-2005 2:17 PM


Re: Adam Created Eternal
What is your source?
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. KJV
but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."
New American Standard Bible
but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die."
Revised Standard Version
now, i'm not as good at the hebrew thing as arach is, but the word yom (yowm actually) is definitely in there.

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Message 12 of 292 (267243)
12-09-2005 3:04 PM
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12-09-2005 3:03 PM


Re: Adam Created Eternal
it says THE VERY DAY.

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Message 14 of 292 (267246)
12-09-2005 3:09 PM
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12-09-2005 3:07 PM


Re: Adam Created Eternal
perhaps. but there is no reason to. i suppose i should have known better than to get myself into that pickle.

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