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Author Topic:   The Tree of Life as God's Life
nwr
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Message 28 of 292 (267330)
12-09-2005 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by jaywill
12-09-2005 7:21 PM


Re: Don't want your money
I'm not selling anything.
Perhaps you misunderstood Ringo. In the sense in which Ringo use "selling" it is clear that you are selling your ideas in this thread.
And I'm on the verge of insulting you and getting band.
Is that a rock band or a jazz band. Incidently, insults are contrary to the forum guidelines.
jaywill to purpledawn writes:
If you have nothing more than glib one liners I won't waste my time talking to you.
jaywill to Ringo writes:
I don't know what it is you think you have that I could possibly want.
I'm wondering who will be left to debate with you.

What shall it profit a nation if it gain the whole world, yet lose its own soul.
(paraphrasing Mark 8:36)

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nwr
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Message 33 of 292 (267386)
12-09-2005 11:44 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jaywill
12-09-2005 11:02 PM


Re: That was a steel drum band
God made man a vessel to contain God as life, NWR.
Does an earthworm also contain God as life? Does a pneumonia bacterium also contain God as life?
You debate it with me.
I am responding this one time. But I am not particularly interested in extended debate on this topic. It seems to me that it is made up theology, reading something into the text that is not there.
"But we have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellency of the power may be of God and not of us" (2 Cor. 4:7)
The Apostle Paul is saying that those saved by Christ are earthen vessels. Within the earthen vessels is the excellency of the power. That is the life of Christ. And Christ is God incarnate.
It seems that you don't understand the use of metaphor.
Man was created a vessel as a glove is a vessel for a living hand.
That's a strange thing to say. Surely Paul, in his metaphor, is using "vessel" as a reference to a container of water (or maybe wine). A glove would be a leaky vessel.
We were made to be vessels that God may dispense His Holy Spirit into us. That is to dispense His life into us. The Spirit is the Spirit of life. And Christ "The last Adam became a life giving Spirit." (1 Cor. 15:45).
Surely Paul is talking about works, that you are to be a vessel unto others.
God has put eternity in man's heart. What man longs for is eternal life.
There are many people who do not have such a longing.

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nwr
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Message 41 of 292 (267399)
12-10-2005 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by jaywill
12-10-2005 12:26 AM


Stop the preaching, jaywill
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NWR,
Does an earthworm also contain God as life? Does a pneumonia bacterium also contain God as life?
No.
That doesn't make sense. If God is there as life, then God would have to be wherever there is life. If you want to say that God is in man, but not in bacteria, then don't put him in man as life.
If we do not partake we will perish forever in the punishment prepared for the Devil.
You are preaching. You are off-topic for the thread. If I want preaching, I know where to go for that. It isn't why I am at evcforum.
Specify what seems "read into" the text by me if you would.
Your emphasis of the tree of life. It only a prop in the Genesis story. Most of what you claim about the tree of life is a modern day revisionist invention.

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