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Poor Satan, so misunderstood.

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iano
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Message 164 of 301 (444652)
12-30-2007 7:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 163 by Rrhain
12-30-2007 3:15 AM

Re: Uh ... "BIBLE STUDY ???"
Rrhain writes:
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Not according to Judaism. And who would know better about the god of the Jews than the Jews?
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Adam perhaps? He wasn't a Jew. He certainly would have known about God in a unique way that only one other Jew I can think of could match or exceed.
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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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12-30-2007 7:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 157 by jaywill
12-26-2007 7:03 AM

An interlude..
Jaywill writes:
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Adam is between two trees. One is the tree of life and the other is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We do not see the tree of the ten commandments or the tree of 613 commandments. We it is the tree life.
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The one command that Adam has to obey is to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In fact it is not even written that he is specifically commanded to eat of the tree of life. It is there with all the other trees "good for food."
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This may be hard for us to understand because Adam was in a state that we have never known. He was in a wonderful neutral state of innocency. In fact he was a "very good" yet neutral created being. Aside from God's blessing instructing him to guard the garden and replenish the earth with multiplication, we don't see God commanding him on 600 or more moral issues.
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When he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil sins and death entered into man. With him now fallen into the kingdom of Satan, creation underneath his dominion, somehow collapses with him into corruption.
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Once he crossed the line and ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - SIN entered into man.
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Hi Jaywill.
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I was wondering if you would comment on the following notions.
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1) That before Adam ate of the fruit he was amorality. That is: he no concept of right and wrong to apply to his choosing. That is: he was a consequential being omly and only had the consequences of his choice to weigh-up in his choosing ("surely die" vs. "be like God")
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2) That on eating of the fruit he became a moral being. That is, he acquired a conscience. The conscience being that of God which would immediately go to work to counter the effect of the sin that had simultaneously entered Adam.
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