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Author Topic:   Define "Kind"
docpotato
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Message 241 of 300 (291645)
03-02-2006 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Faith
03-02-2006 8:40 AM


Re: Further clarification
You can't impose your own preconceptions on the creationist, defining the creationist position as "meaningless," or you make a sham of the whole thing
Its source is the Bible, meaning God.
What do you do if I tell you that I know that the Bible is not the word of God? And that allowing you to insist that this "Kind" you speak of comes from God means allowing you to impose your own preconceptions? Do you offer me the same the courtesy?

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docpotato
Member (Idle past 5076 days)
Posts: 334
From: Portland, OR
Joined: 07-18-2003


Message 254 of 300 (291845)
03-03-2006 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Faith
03-02-2006 11:46 PM


Re: Further clarification
That's nothing but the usual evo position. The debate is weighted either to one side or the other apparently. It may in fact not be possible at all as I've argued here before. But it certainly isn't possible on the usual terms here where the creationist's premises are dismissed up front.
Yeah, I've been wondering about the possibility of this debate myself, lately. Has everything to do with how the two sides use language in completely different ways, I think.
But going further: from what I'm reading from everyone else, it seems to me that the problem (as far as Kinds go) is that unless it is properly defined, us evos can't dismiss, accept, or engage with your premises because no one knows exactly what these premises are.
This message has been edited by docpotato, 03-03-2006 12:25 PM

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