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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
My experience is similar to that of Bill Hicks:
I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, just laughed my ass off, and went about my day. Favorites include alcohol, pot, and shrooms. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Do they actually taste like mushrooms? That would be the deal-killer for me. Unless you could roast and stuff them like a big portabella, which would make for some very interesting dining. As CS says, you can't cook 'em, and they do taste like ass. However, here's a list of recipes that can cover the taste. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
My favorite one was the one where a friend of mine and I were in no state to leave the house. He sat in a corner counting fingers all night. I had a very long conversation with a drawing I had made earlier in the evening, and then went and talked to his sister for a while. I was fairly convinced, at the time, that I had invented a four-dimensional language that would break down all barriers in human communication by allowing people to speak directly from mind to mind. I kept trying to speak to her in it. Apparently I stayed coherent, although she did laugh a few times and say, "You're tripping your balls off, aren't you?"
But she was bright green and all melty at the time, so what does she know. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Maybe you need to start doing some drugs. ^That was actually pretty funny. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Recognize that drug use is a vice, a vice that lowers you to a state lesser than that of an animal. By taking drugs you take away what makes you human. I will bet cash money that you have never done hallucinogens. I say this because hallucinogens have the opposite effect of what you're saying. From the inside of your head, they temporarily raise you to Human. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Come on now, have you ever had a thought that you thought was profound while tripping that turned out not to be nonsense when you came down? Sure. I've also had thoughts that I thought were profound while sober, that turned out to be nonsense when I looked at them later. But my signal to noise ratio is demonstrably better while tripping. And I've never had a tripping night that didn't result in a remarkable shift in perception on at least one subject when I came down. If there's one problem I have with hallucinogens, it's that I can't keep that fluiditiy of free-association on hand to call up whenever I need it, and instead have to devote a whole night to near-physically-incapacitating myself. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
But in all honesty, at least in my experience, that's only phase 1. Letting H = Human, phase two can be expressed as H/2. Well, I'd be the last to say that too much of a good thing can't possibly be bad. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Drunkenness is immoral because as I said because it lowers you to a state lower than that of an animal. If Ernest Hemingway, Oscar Wilde, Dorothy Parker, Tom Waits, Shane McGowan, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Hunter S. Thompson, Brendan Behan, Dylan Thomas, and William Faulkner are less than animals, I'll consider it an honor to be somewhere around the level of a dog. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
They were not writing when drunk. There is no possible way to type the appropriate amount of laughter in response to this statement.
Especially F. Scott Fitzgerald, the only notable writer in your list. And just when I think you can't top yourself... "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Sorry kiddo, but when you said that Shane McGowan doesn't work drunk, I gave up any hope of serious words passing between us.
"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I once had the epiphany that liquids conform to the shape of their container...it was mindblowing. See the part you quoted. Any number of stupid thoughts occur to someone while tripping. It's part of free-association. And honestly, the physics involved in liquid motion do blow my mind while sober sometimes. However, another, much bigger part of the free-association that comes with tripping is blazing new pathways in your brain. Your mind moves in new, higher ways, in which would not otherwise move. If you're lucky, and have a capacity for working your head inside the trip, you can leave those new trails blazed when you come down. Maybe I'm a real lucky duck, but the ways my mind moves on hallucinogens can't be plotted on a three-axis graph.
Too much of a good thing is very possible with psychodelics. See my response to Berberry. Too much of a good thing can easily be bad. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Damn, so close to a milk snarf!
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I think one of the most useful things they do, atleast for me, is lessen anasthetic of familiarity. That is, when confronted with something everyday we lose our sense of awe and wonder about it since it is familiar. Psychodelics seems to be useful in this respect. I think that's a good way of putting one aspect of it. We drop a lot of our shields, like irony or experience, and just embrace stuff that's commonplace, but still fucking. awesome. I guess I just don't personally associate that directly with hallucinogens, because when I think of "everything's awesome" as an effect, I think E. But it's definitely there with hallucinogens.
The probably is when you lose all sense of familiarity...scary shit. True. I've never had a bad trip, but have seen friends do so. I might just be kind of comfortable being off my game like that. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
*shrugs*
I think weird stuff's awesome. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
To sum up:
-Alcohol removes all capacity for reason. This is why drunks don't live more than a couple nights, since they invariably wind up jabbing the bottle in their eye, thinking it's their mouth. -Despite never having done any drugs of any kind, MOO knows exactly what the mindset is of a person under the influence of those drugs. If you, under the influence of those drugs, do not match his vision, you're wrong. It's science! -Any glaring factual errors in MOO's posts mean that you have either not addressed the heart of his post, or that you are having obvious trouble reasoning. -Oscar Wilde and Dylan Thomas were sober nobodies. I've never heard of them, have you? Except to hear that they were sober, of course. -MOO knows Subbie's friend well enough to know from whom he would, and would not, take advice. Subbie, on the other hand, does not. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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