The Religious Nature of Evolution, or Lack Thereof

jar writes:A lot of Christians like to pretend that Hitler was not a Christian. Sorry, he was. Trying to say otherwise is just another example of Christians being able to close their eyes to the TRUTH. It's sad. It's like all of the machinations they go through to find phony prophecies, the amazing bending and contortions they go through to believe in Creation, the Flood, the Boat that didn't Float, the Exodus and so many other things.
Unfortunately, reality is that Christians have done very bad things.

darkstar writes:A lot of Evolutionists like to pretend that Hitler was not a Evolutionist. Sorry, he was. Trying to say otherwise is just another example of Evolutionists being able to close their eyes to the TRUTH. It's sad. It's like all of the machinations they go through to find phony evidence, the amazing bending and contortions they go through to believe in Evolution, the Fossils, the Beginning that doesn't matter, the Evidence that doesn't exist, and so many other things.
Unfortunately, reality is that Evolutionists have done very bad things.

jar writes:You can deny reality, but reality does not change.

THERE are some truths which are so obvious that for this very reason they are not seen or at least not recognized by ordinary people. They sometimes pass by such truisms as though blind and are most astonished when someone suddenly discovers what everyone really ought to know. Columbus's eggs lie around by the hundreds of thousands, but Columbuses are met with less frequently.Thus men without exception wander about in the garden of Nature; they imagine that they know practically everything and yet with few exceptions pass blindly by one of the most patent principles of Nature's rule: the inner segregation of the species of all living beings on this earth.Even the most superficial observation shows that Nature's restricted form of propagation and increase is an almost rigid basic law of all the innumerable forms of expression of her vital urge. Every animal mates only with a member of the same species. The titmouse seeks the titmouse, the finch the finch, the stork the stork, the field mouse the field mouse, the dormouse the dormouse, the wolf the she-wolf, etc.Only unusual circumstances can change this, primarily the compulsion of captivity or any other cause that makes it impossible to mate within the same species. But then Nature begins to resist this with all possible means, and her most visible protest consists either in refusing further capacity for propagation to bastards or in limiting the fertility of later offspring; in most cases, however, she takes away the power of resistance to disease or hostile attacks.This is only too natural......It is idle to argue which race or races were the original representative of human culture and hence the real founders of all that we sum up under the word 'humanity.' It is simpler to raise this question with regard to the present, and here an easy, clear answer results. All the human culture, all the results of art, science, and technology that we see before us today, are almost exclusively the creative product of the Aryan. This very fact admits of the not unfounded inference that he alone was the founder of all higher humanity, therefore representing the prototype of all that we understand by the word 'man.' He is the Prometheus of mankind from whose bright forehead the divine spark of genius has sprung at all times, forever kindling anew that fire of knowledge which illumined the night of silent mysteries and thus caused man to climb the path to mastery over the other beings of this earth. Exclude him - and perhaps after a few thousand years darkness will again descend on the earth, human culture will pass, and the world turn to a desert.Adolf Hitler \ Mein Kampf

Tell a lie loud enough, long enough and often enough and people will believe it.____________________ Adolph Hitler

MrHambre writes:In trying to understand this sort of position, I start by asking whether heliocentrism is a valid scientific theory. Yes, I believe that it is.MrHambre writes:The evolution of species is seen at a high level in the fossil record, which records the progression of life-forms from ancient to modern. I respectfully disagree. I do not believe the fossil record shows this in any conceivable sense outside of microevolution.MrHambre writes:If all life shares ancestry, there should be genetic links among diverse organisms that can help retrace their paths of evolution. Based upon the assumption of shared ancestry, this would be true. I reject that assumption and the fossil record does not support that assumption.MrHambre writes:However, in the absence of any better scientific lens through which to view biology, it's unfair to accuse scientists of being jaundiced or biased for sticking with what works. Based upon evolution scientists own remarks, I beleive it is fair to accuse the scientific community in general of continued bias, a bias that is often based upon nothing more than self preservation brought about by legitimate concerns that greater honesty will result in the same kind of vilification we see heaped upon creation scientists. That fear is powerful and can be used as justification to be less than forthcoming with their progressive understanding of what they discover, knowing that an everincreasing knowledge is not always in line with the theory of evolution.

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nosyned writes:Just what do you think the fossil records suggests to us?

cr writes:shared ancestry isn't an assumption, it's a conclusion. Ok, it'a a conclusion. An erroneous conclusion, but a conclusion nonetheless.

MrHambre writes:For the accusation of bias to stick, you must demonstrate that scientists are willfully ignoring a better scientific construct. Not true. A bias can remain for any number of reasons. Ideological, personal, professional, etc.

MrHambre writes:I'm not sure what all these quotes necessarily have to do with evolution, common ancestry, or empirical evidential inquiry. I believe the topic here is "The Religious Nature of Evolution, or Lack Thereof".