The Religious Nature of Evolution, or Lack Thereof

We've been over this many, many times. Evolution is NOT a religion. Creationism is NOT a science.

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Hitler said time and again that he was a Christian in a Christian Nazi Germany doing Christian work killing Jews and other Lessor creatures.

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As a Christain I believe that God created the underlying rules but do not believe he guided Evolution. Once he began things, all the rules we are working to learn existed. All else simply happened. He did not create man, most likely did not create the Earth or solar system. He started it off and is enjoying learning what happens.

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A lot of Christians like to pretend that Hitler was not a Christian. Sorry, he was. Trying to say otherwise is just another example of Christians being able to close their eyes to the TRUTH. It's sad. It's like all of the machinations they go through to find phony prophecies, the amazing bending and contortions they go throuogh to believe in Creation, the Flood, the Boat that didn't Float, the Exodus and so many other things.Unfortunately, reality is that Christians have done very bad things.But back on topic, there is no religious nature to Evolution. Unfortunately, all too often, there is no honesty in religion. If there were, most of the threads here would never happen.

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Let me ask you a couple questions.One of the things we discuss here is how people deal with reality. Would you agree that part of the problem is that many people distort the evidence to fit their preconceived vision of reality?

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Yes, Hitler most certainly did. But when we also try to distort history by saying he was not a Christian, we too are distorting the evidence. If we are going to try to honestly evaluate reality, then it has to be across the board. We cannot ignore evidence just because we don't like what the evidence shows.

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You'd like to believe that. Too bad Hitler said he was a Christian. He did not say he was an Evolutionist.You can deny reality, but reality does not change.

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I'm glad that you brought those up as it gives me a chance to point out some of the very serious problems common to the way Creationists view the world. It's possible to quote mine just about any body of work and find things that can be twisted to make them seem to support most any position.When it comes to evidence though that is discomforting, to evidence that challenges a strongly held belief, Creationists tend to shut their eyes and simply shudder.You have been out quote mining, and found passages where you believe you can show that Hitler was an Evolutionist. You then presented those passages as proof that Hitler was NOT a Christian. That is not the way that the world works.First, I don’t believe that you bothered to read the passages that you quoted but instead simply cut & pasted them from some other site. If you had, you might have selected other more appropriate ones.The passages you quote, for example... are not reflective of Evolutionists but rather more of the Creationists Kind begets Kind.Second, even if Hitler DID follow Darwin and was an Evolutionist (and so far no one has presented anything that even implies that he believed in Evolution), that does not preclude him being a Christian.One the other hand, Hitler said time and again, clearly, plainly and such that NO twisting or interpretation is needed, that he was a Christian and that he was doing God's work. He said time and again that Nazi Germany was a Christian State. There is no honest way to doubt or question that Hitler was a Christian any more than one could doubt Evolution.From Mein Kampf... That is a pretty clear statement. There is no interpretation needed. It can not be missunderstood. There cannot be two mutually exclusive readings of it.Hitler says he is a Christian.Hitler was a madman. But he was a Christian madman. To say otherwise is to distort and deny the truth. Unfortunately, just as with Evolution, many Christians seem to have no problems doing so.

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Absolutely. And most of the horrific things that the Nazi's did they justified as being Christian Acts.

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Well. It doesn't much matter what you will tolerate. Or what you consider blasphemy either.All I did was to report what Hitler said and what he said he believed.History shows us that many of the most horrific acts of all times have been commited in the name of GOD. And the Judaic religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam, have been at the forefront of violence for thousands of years. As a Christian, I cannot simply say nah-nah-nah, never happened. Nor can I stick my fingers in my ears and refuse to listen.But the topic is the religious nature of evolution.If you would like to discuss the Judaic faiths and violence, start a thread. Otherwise, let's head back towards the topic.

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