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Brian
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Message 61 of 200 (146226)
09-30-2004 6:25 PM
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09-30-2004 6:22 PM


What date does it give for the Exodus Chris LOL
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CK
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Message 62 of 200 (146228)
09-30-2004 6:30 PM


I've checked Prentice-hall's on-line Catalog - Maybe the book you are talking about is:
The World's History, Combined by Howard Spodek, Temple University
Is that the one?
It contains sections about the spread of religion but since it had a timeframe of millions of years - I find it very unlikely that it suggests that the exodus happened.
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CK
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Message 63 of 200 (146232)
09-30-2004 6:36 PM
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09-30-2004 6:30 PM


Nope - I can find no book that is just called "world History" - got an ISBN number (will be on the title page)?
Sure it's not by a R.Wyatt or someone like that?
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doctrbill
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Message 64 of 200 (146236)
09-30-2004 6:52 PM
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09-30-2004 6:03 PM


CHRIS PORTEUS jr writes:
... there wasn't much cultural diffusion between the Israelites and the Sumerians.
??? Do you mean to say these two cultures had nothing in common?
Of all the cultural influences on ancient Israel, the Sumerian is most notable. The grand patriarch Abraham grew up in Sumerian culture and according to scripture: the patriarchs worshipped Mesopotamian gods.
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Primordial Egg
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Message 65 of 200 (146238)
09-30-2004 6:55 PM
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09-30-2004 6:36 PM


Think its:
Prentice Hall World History: Connections to Today
1997. 1038 pages. ISBN of the student's edition: 0-13-803271-8.
Prentice Hall, 1 Lake Street, Upper Saddle River, New Jersey 07458.
Here's a review which accuses the book of being a little too politically correct in the way it panders to all religious sensitivities but doesn't mention the Exodus.
PE

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Message 66 of 200 (146245)
09-30-2004 7:10 PM


The ISBN code is 0-13-128524-6

  
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Message 67 of 200 (146246)
09-30-2004 7:12 PM
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09-30-2004 6:55 PM


quote:
Think its:
Prentice Hall World History: Connections to Today
1997. 1038 pages. ISBN of the student's edition: 0-13-803271-8.
Prentice Hall, 1 Lake Street, Upper Saddle River, New Jersey 07458.
It isn't. heres the date i forgot to add Copyright 2005
Same title probably very similiar.
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-porcelain

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Message 68 of 200 (146247)
09-30-2004 7:21 PM
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09-30-2004 6:25 PM


This is the exact excerpt of the exodus.
quote:
Early History of the Israelites
Early in history, the Israelites, or Hebrews, came to believe that God was taking a hand in their lives. As a result, they recorded events and laws in the Torah, their most sacred text.
A Nomadic People
According to the Torah, a man named Abraham lived near Ur in Mesopatamia. About 2000 B.C., he and his family migrated, herding their sheep and goats into a region called Canaan.* Abraham is considered the founder of the Israelite Nation.
The Book of Genesis tells that a famine later forced many Israelites to migrate to Egypt. There, they were eventually enslaved. In time, Moses led the Israelites in their escape, or exodus, they entered Canaan, the land they believed God had promised them.

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jar
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Message 69 of 200 (146250)
09-30-2004 7:23 PM
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09-30-2004 7:12 PM


Chris
Do us a favor and look at the section that mentions Exodus. Does it say "It happened" or that "Judaic doctrine relates the story of the Exodus?"
edited to add:
Okay, you answered my question while I was posting. So the book is not saying that it happened, only refering to what the Torah says happened.
I thought that would be the case.
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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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CK
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Message 70 of 200 (146251)
09-30-2004 7:27 PM
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09-30-2004 7:12 PM


I think Chris is refering to this:
PHSchool.com Retirement—Prentice Hall—Savvas Learning Company
if so I very much doubt that it claims that the exodus happened - look at the section headings. It may discuss the exodus within the context of what christians believe but it does the same for all the other "major religions".

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Message 71 of 200 (146254)
09-30-2004 7:28 PM
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09-30-2004 6:52 PM


quote:
??? Do you mean to say these two cultures had nothing in common?
Of all the cultural influences on ancient Israel, the Sumerian is most notable. The grand patriarch Abraham grew up in Sumerian culture and according to scripture: the patriarchs worshipped Mesopotamian gods.
No, I don't. But I would think Egypt would have greater influence

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Message 72 of 200 (146258)
09-30-2004 7:31 PM
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09-30-2004 7:23 PM


Is it not being established as happening and adding on to this? The exodus is used to describe the formation of the Israelite civilization.

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jar
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Message 73 of 200 (146262)
09-30-2004 7:32 PM
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09-30-2004 7:31 PM


Not at all. It is simply repeating what the Judaic mythology says.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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CK
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Message 74 of 200 (146263)
09-30-2004 7:33 PM
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09-30-2004 7:31 PM


No - that seems to follow the normal standard of general educational history books when dealing with religions - "believed" & "according" to.

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Message 75 of 200 (146267)
09-30-2004 7:35 PM
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09-30-2004 7:32 PM


I originally said
"The exodus is being taught as happening it history textbooks"
quote:
Not at all. It is simply repeating what the Judaic mythology says.
Yes, in establishing the origins of their civilization.

-porcelain

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