Origin of Gods word

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Originally posted by jalajo

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How is that verse about Lucifer refering to Nebudchanezzar(probably spelled incorrectly).

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There are other candidates besides Nebuchadrezzar, but it was most certainly referring to a king of Babylon because verse 4 tells us so:

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Isaiah 14:4

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You shall take up this proverb against the king of Babylon . . .

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That this king is a man is verified in verse 16:

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Isaiah 14:16

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. . . is this the man who made the earth tremble, shaking kingdoms . . .

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P.S. As doctrbill mentioned, the Hebrew term used in Isaiah is "he'lel" - light bearer. This term, "he'lel", was translated as "eosphoros" in the Greek LXX and then as "lucifer" in the Latin texts. IOW, "lucifer" is not another name for "Satan".Welcome to the forum. I hope you will stay around awhile.AmlodhiThis message has been edited by Amlodhi, 09-29-2004 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Arachnophilia

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Hello Arachnophilia,

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. . . however, the genesis legend contains elements also found in the gilgamesh story: one survivor, a big wooden boat with all the animals, and a repentant god who puts something in the sky as a reminder that it won't happen again.

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And, one of the most startling parallels, that Zuisudra/Utnapishtim released a dove, a swallow and a raven to see if they would find a place to perch or come back.In all fairness, this story was fairly widespread at an early date. Along with the Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian versions, there were also Hittite (likely rather Hurrian) and other versions. Thus, rather than being a case of strictly adoptionism, the Genesis Noah story was likely just one more cultural rendition among the many.Amlodhi

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Originally posted by ramoss

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If you look at the Ugartic bible, Yahwey was the Son of God (El)

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Hello ramoss,While I do agree with the gist of what you said in your post, in the interest of fairness and accuracy, I'm not sure that the descripton in your post concisely represents the Ugaritic texts.This is strictly from memory, but IIRC, the god you are making reference to is "Yaw" rather then "Yahwey". And again, IIRC, Yaw is depicted as being the sea.Amlodhi

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Originally posted by doctrbill

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The Weekend. What could be more important than that!?

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Yes. I have often found myself thinking how much nicer things might be if God had created everything in 3 days and then rested for 4.Amlodhi