Origin of Gods word

The proof of the Bible is its uniqueness among other books. No other book or religious textbook/philosophy can say they have the credentials of being a Holy/Divine Bible as the actual Holy Bible.- Written over 1,500 yr span-Written over 40 generations-Written by over 40 authors from all walks of life:Moses - Trained in the universities of Egypt
Peter - Fishermen
Amos - Herdsmen
Joshua - Military leader
Nehemiah - Cupbearer
Daniel - Prime minister
Luke - Doctor
Solomon - King
Matthew - Tax collector
Paul - RabbiHow likely is it that vastly different authors would write hundreds of yrs apart under different situations and still be consistent. All seeming to be guided by the same God and speaking on the same future messiah. Some locations/situations included:In a palace - Daniel (540 BC)
Prison - Paul (A.D 60)
Travelling - Luke (A.D 60)
Fighting - Joshua
Wilderness - Moses
In a dungeon - Jeremiah (600 BC)
In joy - David (1000 BC)
In despair - JeremiahThe Bible contains books of history, law, prophecy, poetry, proverbs, & songs. Adding complexity to the divine design are vastly different styles in which various books are written. An unlikely combination of books to be grouped together by anyone. Yet they miraculously tie together in theme, message and even many cross-references.- Written on 3 continents (Asia,Africa & Europe)-Written in 3 languages (Hebrew,Aramaic,Greek)-Survival through time,persecution & criticism:Infidels for 1800yrs have been refuting and overthrowing the Bible, yet it stands today solid as a rock. its circulation increses and is loved more,cherished more and read more than ever before. The Bible has withstood vicious attacks of its enemies as no other book. Many have tried to ban it, outlaw it, and burn it from the days of Roman emperors to present day communist dominated countries.This does not of course prove the Bible to be Gods word, But the amazing thing is this is just a slice of what the Bible has done through time. Only Gods true words could achieve what the Bible has. It does not prove God but it does prove it stands alone among other books. Anyone seeking truth ought to consider a book that has the above unique qualifications.This message has been edited by almeyda, 06-03-2004 02:27 AM

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having read the christian bible, including the torah, i find more validity in the torah, personally, than the nt. i've also read portions of the bhagavad gita, a sacred hindu text. the quran is next on my list, and eventually the qabala. i've also read greek plays, know a bit about nead, the iliad, and have read gilgamesh and beowulf.

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it's not that different. many of those texts, as well as none mythological texts such as fictional traditions (arthur, et al) hold many of those properties.

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No they definately do not. Please provide evidence for this assertion. As no other book/textbook comes even a little bit close to the credentials of the Bible. Please back up these claims.

You havent proved anything yet. Im still waiting.

It may well predate the complete Bible. Which was finished a long time after the things in the Bible actually happened. But does it predate the premeval history in Genesis and other early chapters?.

Great. Bring it on.

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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

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This verse is talking about satan not Jesus. Lucifer was an angel remember, that got thrown out. Also the name Lucifer means bright star or something like that. And if you read the rest of this chapter and bit before you will see its about the devil and how he was so powerful while on earth but after God he ended up in hell just like any other man.

Im currently reading on this summerian. And it says it dates 2300bc, But Genesis is yet before 2300bc. Also why is this refered to as mythology and the Bible as historical?. What did this religion do to prove its credentials. Did it fullfill prophecies?, send down a messiah that rose from the dead?, Does their religious book have the uniqueness of the Bible as i pointed out before. The person that claimed everyother book has the same properties has yet to provide.EDITED...BTW, I found this at AiG which says

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Although this hypothesis cannot be proven at this time, it seem to afford a reasonable explanation of the similarities and differences between the two documents. The probability that the resemblance is fortuitous is very small in view of the fact that the two lists:

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-mention the Flood;

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-refer to the same (adjusted) number of personages;

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-have totals that are made up of the same number of symbols for ten times the square of the base, the square of the base, and the next lower symbol of the two different numerical systems involved;

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and, have their totals correspond to each other numerically.

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On the other hand, it is highly unlikely that the biblical account was derived from the Sumerian because:

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-the Genesis account has more numerical precision and more detailed information;

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-the ages of the patriarchs are much more reasonable than the extremely long reigns of the kings of the Kings List, the account is much more realistic and true to life;

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-and, the moral and spiritual qualities are immensely superior. For example, in the Sumerian account of the Flood (as given in the Gilgamesh epic) there is no reason given for the decision of the gods to destroy mankind. There are no allusions at all to a fault committed by man. The Flood appears as a capricious act of the gods rather than a divine punishment. In Genesis, however, God purposes to purge mankind because the thoughts and designs of men were continually evil, and the Earth was full of violence.

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That the two documents are numerically related is strong evidence for the historicity of the book of Genesis. The fact that the Sumerian account shows up as a numerically rounded, incomplete version of the Genesis description, lacking the latter’s moral and spiritual depth, is a strong argument for the accuracy, superiority, and primacy of the biblical record. In addition, the parallels between the Sumerian and biblical antediluvian data open up the possibility of establishing chronological correlations between the rest of the Kings List and the book of Genesis.

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The Antediluvian Patriarchs and the Sumerian King List | Answers in Genesis This message has been edited by almeyda, 06-08-2004 12:23 AM

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genesis is NOT science. genesis was NEVER science

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Although i disagree with you and think that the entire genesis creation is fact and consistent with science. For your benefit ill pretend that its not science. However, you mention that there is no science in genesis. Well surely the 7-day week is science and not consistent with scientific knowledge known at the time. Ill explain...Well first off, the 7-day weeks origin is from the Bible, even more astonishingly is how it fits with astronomical observations on the earths pattern. The 24hr day time is based on how long it takes for the earth to rotate on its axis, the months are based on the earths relationship with the faces off the moon, the year is based on how long it takes for the earth to revolve around the sun. So the day, month, year are all based on scientific observations. The fact that God took 6 days and rested on the 7th is the basis for our 7-day week.Moreover in Exodus 20:11, the passage denounces any form off evolution in that God tells us that the basis of the work 6 days and 1 day rest is based on that God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

I understand what your saying. If it was a evolutionary world where things just happen, then yes it wouldnt matter whens day, whens night, what calender we use. But again, why is our world so consistent, & orderly. A rational God as described in the Bible is a rational answer to why this world is orderly. And no matter what calender 'could have been used', we have a calender that fits the facts of reality. And of science. You can either call it a big coincedence. That our premeval homosapien ape-men where geniuses or that God gave man a time-dimension/framework. Based upon consistent astronomical observations not known at the time.