Origin of Gods word

yes it is being taught as happening by including that in the civilizations origins

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No people or civilization can be seperated from their mythos. Take some time and read the works of Joseph Campbell.

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Of course because that's the only evidence of what happened. As a historian you use written documents to discover history.

double postThis message has been edited by CHRIS PORTEUS jr, 09-30-2004 07:43 PM

ill get back to u homework

nothings abosolute literal truth. Historians have to base evidence from writing.

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Written documents are one thing that is used, but not a very reliable means until verified by other things, ruins, pottery, tools, multiple written sources, geology, remains.

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My point was that sometimes that's all they have.

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Many, many of the historical accounts simply are not borne out by other evidence. In addition, so many of the stories seem to be rewrites of earlier mythology.

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This could be used as evidence for either side depending on your perspective.

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Egypt did have a great influence on Israel, especially when they were living there; but the events at Mt. Sinai clearly suggest that the Mesopotamian model was preferred by Moses.

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Zoraster(probably sic)? Polytheism? The Sumerians religion was much different believing in a dreary afterlife.

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-porcelain

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You do more than that. You also look at artifacts

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Sometimes written text and the outcome of where the people are is all that's available.Is it accepted that the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians? If so there must have been an exodus.

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-porcelain

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Does your textbook back up the exodus with archeological facts? if not then its just repeating what the Torah claims and is not stating that this the truth and therefore the exodus isn't being taught as fact as you claimed back in message 52.

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THere must be a conclusion to how and why they left Egypt. The best evidence there is to what happened is the written text.

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it's not a question of whether or not they copied from the babylonians, they certainly did.

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and last time i checked, abram was from a place called ur. ur was a city in sumeria.

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Two civilizations can't view creation the same way? I would tend to think that would give accuracy to genesis. I think the oldest civilization would have good authority to speak of creation.

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so that's the tail end of sameul/kings and chronicles, and isaiah? every textual clue tells us the bible is not recording history, but conveying messages, often from very different view points. yes, some of the events happened. but some of them we have absolutely no evidence for, like the exodus.

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Yeah

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and the history channel has documentaries on it. it doesn't mean they're right. the text can't even reach a conclusive date on it happening (year wise).

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as for a good variety of historical information... well. what books would you call history? at the very most we're limited to genesis through chronicles as arranged in the christian bible, sans a book or two like leviticus.

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I remember seeing it and they portrayed the Biblical account of winning, do you know what their evidences were?Do any of these links on this site have a case?http://www.jcsm.org/misc/TheExodus.htmThis message has been edited by CHRIS PORTEUS jr, 10-01-2004 09:49 PM

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Genesis is old science. Once validated and virtually irrefutable, the science of Genesis is now little more than an historical novelty.

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If God's methods can be defined by science

They however use it to describe Israelite beginnings for no other better explanation exists. I feel the exodus has been accepted.

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Not sure I understand what you are trying to say but I take it that you don't accept Genesis as an accurate description of the universe. Yes? Most Christians don't, or won't if they actually read and understand it.

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Yes I believe in Genesis

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-porcelain

In using common sense if the Israelites were no longer in Egypt there must have been an exodus right?This message has been edited by CHRIS PORTEUS jr, 10-02-2004 04:04 PM

China's creation myth is very similiar yet they were geographically isolated.

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the humor of these things have obviously been lost, but they're good a show that they borrow and re-write legends.

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I disagree, you're viewing the evidence of similiar creation myths as borrowed and copied. I'm viewing the evidence saying that may be how it all happened and it was passed down through the peoples, being common knowledge for even people of different cultures.