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Architect-426 Member (Idle past 4653 days) Posts: 76 From: NC, USA Joined: |
Hydrovolcanism will make the rocks become plastic, and thus fold. This can also be tested in an experiment. Maybe you should try and present it to your classmates.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
So in the future take great care in how you reply to ARCHITECT four twenty-six Because the answer may come from way out of nowhere, and put you in a real fix. Yeah, I'd say your answer came out of nowhere. And is still bunk. It hasn't put me in a real fix, because I can now see you're as crazed as that comic-book writer (name escapes me) who thinks that the earth is growing. No amount of evidence will convince you that you are wrong. Of course, you still display a lack of understanding how plate tectonics work (since you have yet to remedy your claim in my post you replied to), and until you actually learn what plate tectonics says, your criticism of it is rather insignificant and really quite funny. It's on the same order of those who disprove evolution by saying "if men came from apes, why are apes still here?". So yeah. Keep on coming out of left-field. I need something other than the daily show and the colbert report to keep me laughing in sweden.
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
kuresu writes: It hasn't put me in a real fix, because I can now see you're as crazed as that comic-book writer (name escapes me) who thinks that the earth is growing. Neal Adams. He has a series of fascinating and highly professional videos on YouTube describing his growing Earth theory, just search on "Neal Adams". Obviously an artistic genius, as a scientist he's a loon. I don't know which of the videos should be first, but here's one that seems to get his ideas across:
--Percy
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hey Coyote,
You are off by a little bit ... .. in just about everything and more ways than one. It is humorous to see him cherry pick dates from different areas, and different processes and then claim that they should be the same according to plate tectonics.
You can't just go mixing events vastly separated in time just because you think they might relate to a global flood. Nor claim that it is caused by volcanic activity that would have to be evident every 10 sq miles to generate 1/10 of the energy etc of his theory -- all at the same time.
You should be ashamed to post such unscientific and anti-scientific nonsense in the Science Forum. The only folks who believe that stuff are diehard creation "scientists" ... I think he's on the fringe even for them. Like Ron Wyatt. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
” Dinosaurs in the Midwest died by and are buried in volcanic ash and are bones, not necessarily fossils. Moreover, they usually are not found very deep, in fact near the surface! And they died 65 million years ago? HA! Hardly. A few thousand years at best, and most likely a few hundred years AFTER the Flood . . ..After 65 million years the bones would be in the sea (as well as the entire continent would erode away . ..but plate tectonics would push them back up at 4cm/year . .so everything would be OK). It is obvious that you have not studied even basic earth science. Where did you get your education? From Ham? Hovind? or the discombobolated discovery institute? where fiction & myth are advanced as science. Edited by bluescat48, : typo There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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olivortex Member (Idle past 4808 days) Posts: 70 From: versailles, france Joined: |
Where did you get your education? From Ham? Hovind? Thank GOD i never had to receive their "education". I thought on EvC people achieved in forgetting these odd people. Something vaguely in connection with the topic: a youtube video of a visit of the Creation Museum, where some resourceful man explain that T Rex did not eat any one on Noah's ark because it didn't fear man yet. Another funny one told me it was only baby T Rex aboard... Resourcefulness and imagination. I wish i could have as much as they have.
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Architect-426 Member (Idle past 4653 days) Posts: 76 From: NC, USA Joined: |
Hi Karusu,
All right, I’m back from my suspension. No more poetry slams, let’s get down to business.
quote: No, you personally are not in a fix. I’m just having some fun. However, science at large is in a HUGE fix. The problem is perhaps I know too much about plate tectonics, and can see right thru it. I have a knack for seeing thru a bunch of BS, and that’s how I have survived and run a successful business for so many years in one of the toughest professions. Things in my world have to work, theories are out! I have the ability to wow clients with great designs, thus selling my ideas, winning a commission, and eventually seeing a project through to fruition. However, if a great concept is not designed correctly, thoroughly detailed, checked and re-checked, it will end up being a mess and someone will get sued. So goes with the plate tectonic theory. It is the ‘wow’ of earth science with its nice colorful maps and diagrams. Earth science and geology suddenly became ‘cool’ with its all encompassing theory. As a result, plate tectonics is a prime example of how the scientific herd can be led down a garden path of roses with a theory that looks good and sounds even better. Peer review evidently was minimal and even avoided as geologists became so addicted to the theory thus wanting to protect it from any potential scrutiny that could lead to its demise, but instead plowed forward recklessly professing the theory to everyone without carefully working out the details and running it by multiple disciplines. If scientists thoroughly went through a review process, other professionals would have said: Lets see, you have a problem here, here, here and a bunch more over there. How do you plan to resolve all of those with your tecto-play-puzzle theory? But now it is 40 years too late, and plate tectonic junk has done nothing but put science in a 40-year funk! Earth scientists swallowed the plate tectonic theory hook, line, and sinker. Even the entire boat went down with it! Plate tectonics is nothing but a thought experiment lacking real observation and real experimentation (other than absurd and pathetic mm/yr ‘movement’). As a result, earth scientists have done nothing but set themselves up for imminent disaster that will lead to the general public’s total lack of confidence in virtually any scientific publications regarding how the earth works and its’ history. Mark my words, the day is near that the theory will end up being the laughing stock of science. This is what essentially took place with the advent of plate tectonicsscientists thought Oh boy this theory is great! It explains EVERYTHING! Now we can publish it as FACT in ALL of our earth science books and websites and teach it to kindergarteners how ‘plates’ bash and crash into each other like bumper cars. Oh my! and we mustn’t forget to state that NO ocean crust is older than 200 million years, while the continents are over 3 billion years olddue to plate tectonics sea floor spreading and subduction of course. Forget if plate tectonics truly works. ‘Science’ evidently does not need to WORK, only a group of scientists need to gather together in a conference hall and simply agree while sipping on coffee. Then the general public gets the overall vote and thus we have ‘earth science’ spoon fed to the masses. Scientists have etched the break up of Pangea as a FACT and explain this fantasized break-up of this blasted imaginary landmass with sea floor spreading and subduction, which both ideas are preposterous to say the least. The truth is that the answers to these ridge and trench formations are right in front of scientists faces, but most dare not go there in fear of losing credibility amongst peers or even their jobs as the TRUTH stops plate tectonics dead in its tracks, then any attempts at dating rocks falls apart, and of course along with it the theory of evolution is left standing there naked with it’s knees wobbling. When science goes beyond truth in science, that is science that is observable, testable and repeatable, and proceeds with making scientific claims published as FACT, they have in essence committed FRAUD, which is a crime punishable by law. Science has done nothing but commit fraud over, and over, and over again with its claims regarding plate tectonics and the geological time column mental contraptions. These are the two crutches of earth science and geology, and once these crutches are proven fraudulent, (which of course plate tectonics is false as well as the geological illogical time column) science will fall FLAT ON IT’S FACE. Yes, science is in a huge fix due to its addiction to plate tectonics; professing of sea floor spreading and subduction, breaking up of Pangea, and stating dating methods as a fact. Here are a few of examples of scientists’ reckless abandonment of the plate tectonic theory: Because ocean floor crust is recirculated by subduction, no portion of the ocean floor is much older than 200 million yearsBecause continental rock is less frequently subducted than ocean floor material, many continental rocks are billions of years old.Rice, S.A., PhD (2007) Encyclopedia of Evolution, Ney York: Facts on File The oldest rocks on the ocean floor are 180 million years old. This is young compared with the oldest continental rocks, which date from 3.8 billion years agoIt (ocean crust) is created at the mid-ocean ridges from hot material rising in the mantle, and then spreads away from the ridges, before eventually being recycled into the mantle at subduction zones.American Museum of Natural History (2006), Oceans, The World’s Last Wilderness Revealed, New York: DK Press The ocean crust is much younger than the continental crust — even the oldest part of the ocean floor are only 200 million years old. This is because ocean crust is continually being recycledIt forms from mantle material rising within rifts and ocean ridges and spreading to either side of the ridge.Smithsonian (2005), Rock and Gem, New York: DK Publishers I could go on and on citing examples such as these in earth science and geology literature. This kind of reckless abandonment in science displays: 1) A lack of professionalism.2) A lack of any basic standard of care. 3) A total disregard to dealing with real factual evidence and data. 4) Scientific dogma of the worst extreme. 5) A lack of discipline or better yet scientific misconduct. 6) Failure in completion and/or correction of the theory prior to factual publication. 7) A lack of respect to peers who disagree within the field who point out real problems with the theory. 8) A lack of true understanding in their own field of expertise. 9) Pride in believing in these theories as correct and true and thus a lack of true discernment. 10) Scientific retardation in accepting evolution as true and thus making dire efforts at any cost in order to support such non-sense. 11) A lack of creativity in the ability in coming up with other means in which to propose plausible answers to very complex geological problems. Science is supposed to be the search for TRUTH, but has done nothing but display its lack of real knowledge of truth in its efforts in supporting the BUNK plate tectonic theory. The only thing science is good at is promoting scientific misconduct. Plate tectonics needs to be thrown in the trash, hauled to the dump, and forever BURIED. But no way Jose! Science evidently likes to play with trash, and wants everyone else to play with it as well, so in effect everyone can play with play tectonics. Please, by all means.keep up the good work science.so people like me who have to deal with reality can continue to laugh across the cosmos! Science evidently does not deal with reality, but would rather dwell in never-never land of a ridiculous theory that is supposed to be based on movement, but has no movementand this is science.
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Architect-426 Member (Idle past 4653 days) Posts: 76 From: NC, USA Joined: |
quote: You set yourself up for this one. Perhaps you are the one who knows very little about truth in earth science and volcanism. It is a known fact that in many cases these and other animals choked on volcanic ash prior to being buried in it. Volcanic ash will lithify into rock of course. Depending on the dynamics of the eruption, chemical makeup, water content, thermal dynamics, pressures etc., various rocks/rock formations will be the end result. Geology, in effect, is simply the forensic study of the mass destruction of the Earth by the Great Flood of Noah via volcanic processes. From Daily Nebraskan:The animals that became the fossils in today's park were ancient visitors to a waterhole after a large-scale volcanic eruption had filled the air with what amounted to powdered glass. As dying animals breathed in the ash for days, they grew weaker. They may have gone to a pond or spring to seek comfort in the water. Instead, they succumbed to their illnesses and were buried in ashes. The effect of preservation is akin to the ash-covered ruins at Pompeii. The Ashfall fossil bed is unique to Nebraska. From the GSA (of course the unobserved geological eons are 100% science fiction, nevertheless the fact remains regarding the demise of these terrible lizards):THE EFFECT OF VOLCANIC ASH FALLS ON THE EVOLUTION OF DINOSAURS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE WESTERN INTERIOR SEAWAY IN LATE CRETACEOUS TIME Because discrete ash beds and bentonitic shales are abundant in Upper Cretaceous strata in western North America, it is clear that dinosaurs (and other life forms) dwelling on the long, narrow, spit of land west of the Western Interior Seaway during Campanian time, especially those in the San Juan Basin area, were being subjected to a continuing succession of violent volcanic eruptions from eruptive centers a few hundred km to the west. (Bentonite by the way is a great remedy for digestion problems. Just mix some up with some juice and you’ll get results the next day) From an article about Dinosaur bones found near Memphis TN:"When I first saw the bone, I was all shook up," (Elvis was all shook up as well). Dr. Hutz explained. "It was clearly poking out of an ash deposit, probably from a sudden local volcanic eruption that caught the animal by surprise. It was very fine grained ash, and I thought some skin impressions might have been preserved." Again, these terrible lizards along with other animals are found buried in ash, most were from post-flood super-eruptions. Your statement just got buried..in volcanic ash.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Again, these terrible lizards along with other animals are found buried in ash, most were from post-flood super-eruptions. Your statement just got buried..in volcanic ash. Except that's NOT what you just said. If these eruptions are "post-flood" but contained dinosaurs, then they must necessarily contain other things which would be around "post-flood". Things such as grass pollen. Yet, that NEVER happens. We NEVER find dinosaur deposits with grass pollen. We find grass pollen in strate above dinosaurs. We find it in fossils of megafauna. We find it in ice cores. Grass pollen is ubiquitous and hardy. It gets in everything. Yet, it somehow miraculously never gets in the dinosaurs fossil beds - be they volcanic or otherwise. If this is post-flood, it must NECESSARILY be at a time in which other post-flood animals were alive, including animals which can ONLY survive on grasses. So, do dinosaur bones release some sort of grass pollen destroying magic juice as they are being fossilized?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
but has no movement.. Except for the interplate movement that's measured all over the world every day, of course. Have you ever heard of the Global Positioning System, Archie?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I can even teach a child that the theory does not work for free Whose age even happens to be as young as 3. But the real challenge is convincing the folks, who even hold a PhD. If you maintain that your gibberish can fool a three-year-old child, but not someone who has a PhD in geology, then I entirely concur. If you ever figure out why this should be the case, this will be your first step on the road to recovery.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1019 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
I could go on and on citing examples such as these in earth science and geology literature.
They are examples of what exactly?
Please, by all means.keep up the good work science.so people like me who have to deal with reality can continue to laugh across the cosmos! Science evidently does not deal with reality, but would rather dwell in never-never land of a ridiculous theory that is supposed to be based on movement, but has no movementand this is science.
You are either a POE or certifiably delusional. Plate movement is measured on a daily basis. Or is there a world-wide conspiracy to blame?
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4046 Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
If you maintain that your gibberish can fool a three-year-old child, but not someone who has a PhD in geology, then I entirely concur. If you ever figure out why this should be the case, this will be your first step on the road to recovery. Rhyming makes his argument totally convincing. Who needs an education, or evidence, when you can rhyme?! He's converted me! I no longer accept plate tectonics! I now accept... Wait, what's ARCHI-looney's model of geology again? Did he even tell us what model he supposes explains the observed evidence? Has he even referred to any evidence beyond saying the word evidence?
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1019 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
He doesn't have to construct a model because there is apparently no data and no geological evidence to model... other than that observable when one sports his/her god-goggles, that is.
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