Evangelical Indoctrination of Children

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When the child is told "This is the absolute truth, you cannot question it," as I was told at the age of 5.

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By a Christian, in your view?

Sounds like indoctrination, to me.

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That you don't understand why that is a bad thing is quite telling.

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Is bad-mouthing with inventions the only tactic you have? It's getting boring.

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Who is denying hell?

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Read the thread before posting.

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Oh, so you've been given divine knowledge as to what it means to be a "true Christian"?

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So lying is ok? Most decent citizens don't think so.If the sentences that contain the word 'you' in Rrhain's posts were to be snipped, would there be much left? Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.

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Are you saying Christians are incapable of raising children without abusing them?

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There you are, Percy. Those evangelicals don't indoctrinate their children.

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It was in a Christian Church School.

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How did you know that?

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People such as yourself, however, feel those people are causing tremendous harm.

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Why do they feel that?

Somebody must have asked a difficult question. Or two.

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Please stop posting one line messages. This is a discussion board, not a chat room.

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So is it true that a one line message = chat?Is the above chat?Is this thread the Wonderland that Alice fell into?Let's grow up, eh? Don't try to rescue other posters, Percy, you started an aggressive thread, you sowed the wind, and you don't like the consequences. So just wait for us to know how we know who Christians are (and Rrhain says it's not so easy), and why the concept of rapture is harmful. Both questions that are bang on topic, and ones that you should be interested in seeing the answers to; if not actually providing answers, which would be something unusual, from you. Why you jumped in when everyone else was on topic is a mystery.

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You are the one claiming that these various Christians mentioned are not in fact Christian.

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Where is this claim?

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You have claimed that there is no such thing as an evangelical creationist. Well, I know personally several hundred who are, including senior members of the UK Evangelical Alliance.

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You do? Roman Catholics call themselves Christians, do you think they do rightly?

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it is up to you to provide your rationale, not for us to guess.

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Why would anyone need to guess?

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Yes, I do.

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Can you prove it?

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Now, please back up your assertion that there are no creationist evangelicals

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When you have answered the questions I have asked you. If necessary.

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Exactly. They shouldn't.

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My point precisely! Nobody asked me to prove it, because they all knew it was true, and why!

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It has been admitted that most who call themselves Christians tell lies.

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But not by me.

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Because they feel that those people are terrorizing their own children by telling them spook stories that will never actually happen -- tales of the torments of hell

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That's twisting words, poster. I asked about rapture, and people don't get terrorized by the concept of rapture. They may be disappointed, but that's another matter.And of course no-one can prove that there will not be a rapture, or something of the sort.

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He happens to be the only reason we're all here discussing any of this.

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But should we be discussing it at all? It looks slanderous, to me, and its worse because there is not a scrap of evidence offered, and no identification of who it is wants to scare people with hell. Percy has been asked to provide evidence, but he has ignored that request, and now, it appears, looks to suffocate legitimate questions. It's a disgrace to skepticism/atheism, if you did but realise it. Atheism will never be taken seriously like this.Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.

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Some people do feel terrorized by the whole thing.

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Then write 'the whole thing', not 'rapture'.

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And you can't prove there will be

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I haven't said that there will be.Do read what people actually write, not what you imagine they write, or what you want them to write. All of you. Long way to go.Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.

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Wanting evolution to be taught as the truth, with no questions allowed, is also indoctrination as per your standard, no ?

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Science dos not recognise the concept of truth. It recognises what works. ET works. There is no competitor to it in science, and there has not been for over a century. End of story.If people want to discuss other ideas outside science lessons, that's fine, surely.