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Message 258 of 429 (635198)
09-27-2011 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Artemis Entreri
09-27-2011 6:32 PM


Re: Apple Expanding into the Workplace?
As far the specifics go it was not important
Actually, it is VERY important. Saying "macs are faster" without identifying the hardware involved is very misleading. The PC's in question could have been using dual-cores while your macs had quad. Data is not processed by the OS.....

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Message 335 of 429 (637074)
10-13-2011 9:55 AM


Why don't you guys put something not iOS on your iPad? Like something open source/community modded? Do you not have that option?

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Message 337 of 429 (637076)
10-13-2011 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 336 by Huntard
10-13-2011 10:00 AM


Wait wait wait....people spend exorbitant amounts of cash on these devices and cannot put any other firmware on them?
Point goes to Android based devices....
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

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Message 341 of 429 (637084)
10-13-2011 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:18 AM


Why? Why would I want to put anything on an iOS device but iOS?
Maybe if you had the option, you might want to. However, there are many other roms out there that FAR surpass iOS (Cyanogen and MIUI spring to mind). But since you cannot put anything else on there, you think you wouldn't want to.
And yes, I have used iOS. IMO, ALL iterations of iOS are the same. Just like ALL iPhones are exactly the same, looks wise anyways. They might offer a few new features, but no real difference. Now, Android, otoh, Froyo and Gingerbread are vastly different, not just functionally, but aesthetically as well.
Don't take what I say as fanning the flames of fanboy war because that is not my intention. I got an iOS device so I could see what the hype was about (and it was cheap) and so I could make a more informed decision about whether or not to stick with Android or get an iPhone since I am eligible for an upgrade. I was able to put a number of different versions of iOS on my Touch and they were all exactly the same. No thanks, I'll stick to Android and it's freedom.

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Message 344 of 429 (637087)
10-13-2011 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 342 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:34 AM


Inconsistency in UI isn't a virtue.
How many Android devices have you tried? You say inconsistency, I say options. I can customize the fuck out of my Incredible. I can make it look just like iOS or as unique as I want.
{abe} Secondly, major Android revisions are consistent (Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream Sandwich, etc.). It is just the hardware manufacturer overlay that is different (Motorloa=Blur, Samsung=TouchWiz, HTC=Sense).
forever doomed to be slower than equivalent iOS hardware.
ROFL! Good one crash. How many dual core iPhones are there?
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Message 350 of 429 (637097)
10-13-2011 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 346 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:52 AM


A couple that were current about when the iPhone 4 came out.
What phone and what ROM? Of course shitty phones are going to be shitty.
I found them slow and unresponsive, due to the JVM overhead.
You sure it wasn't because of bloatware or shitty hardware?
The only advantage seems to be that, on Android platforms, Google doesn't decide how many fart apps you can have access to on the phone. Whoopty-doo.
Oh right, the only apps available are fart apps.
And without the need to operate a JVM on top of the kernel, they're faster than equivalent Android models.
Faster at what? And what would equivalent Android phones be?

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Message 363 of 429 (637116)
10-13-2011 2:24 PM
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10-13-2011 1:53 PM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
Well, I will admit that once I figured out to keep iTunes from creating Libraries and not make copies of stuff, it became close to not totally worthless.
I use iTunes solely for Podcasts for this reason in particular. I refuse to allow it access to my media library. I've spent countless hours fixing what iTunes fucked up in my music folder. oh, and it's buttfuck slow too.

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Message 389 of 429 (639052)
10-27-2011 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 388 by crashfrog
10-27-2011 3:11 PM


Re: iPhone vs Android legacy support
I think a more fair comparison would be iPhone to Google's Nexus phones because ALL the phones listed are not receiving updates due to Android, but due to carrier/manufacturer.

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Message 392 of 429 (639057)
10-27-2011 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 391 by PaulK
10-27-2011 4:26 PM


Re: iPhone vs Android legacy support
the comparison as given is the only one that matters.
I don't see that it even matters at all.

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Message 394 of 429 (639060)
10-27-2011 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 393 by PaulK
10-27-2011 4:37 PM


Re: iPhone vs Android legacy support
It gives you some basis for working out how much support you can reasonably hope for.
This chart and article are dealing with OS updates, not support. Secondly, this is insinuating fault with Android when it clearly IS manufacturer/carrier who is at fault. If There was only 1 Android phone you could buy, made by Google, that NEVER changed (same exact phone since release), this comparison would work.

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Message 397 of 429 (639065)
10-27-2011 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 396 by PaulK
10-27-2011 5:08 PM


Re: iPhone vs Android legacy support
If you are interested in the service that customers actually get then the only fair thing to do is look at the service that customers actually get.
it is an Android/iOS comparison. It is NOT the fault of Android. Android, in this comparison, is being held accountable for what is at the hands of phone manufacturers and carriers. The implied purpose of the chart is to try and show somehow that iOS is better because they "support" longer. Just look at the subtitle: Android vs. iPhone. iPhone is a device, Android is an OS. How many iPhones are there to choose from?
Now, let's look at what has been released in major OS releases from iOS. How has iOS changed since it's inception? How has Android changed? iOS revisions just don't matter as much as Android revisions. iOS 5 looks and performs damn near identical to iOS 1.

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Message 408 of 429 (639206)
10-28-2011 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 399 by crashfrog
10-27-2011 5:35 PM


Re: iPhone vs Android legacy support
I just purchased another phone (HTC Thunderbolt) today. I have been shopping for some time now because my fiance hates her phone (my old Droid X. I hate it too, so I can't blame her) and wants mine (HTC Incredible). She is less inclined to give a rats ass about a smart phone and would be happy with a dumb phone, but I couldn't justify wasting my upgrade on one. At one point I contemplated getting an iPhone. But then I thought to myself: "don't you want to be able to customize it and not have to have your phone look exactly like the millions of other iPhones out there???". Decision made.
My adventure that was my decision making process HAS, admittedly, been plagued with support issues. I was tossed up between a Droid Charge and a Thunderbolt. The deciding factor, in the end, ended up being which phone has more Dev support. This does actually stem from when these devices see OTA upgrades.
Now, myself being fairly hip on the Android community and Dev opinions, I can assuredly say that this matter is not one that comes at a fault of Android. Google decided to give consumers the ability to choose their carrier, their manufacturer and their phone. I think carriers/manufacterers need to seriously reconsider the amount of phones they are putting out so as to not flood the market so much. With each new iPhone that comes out, Apple is almost guaranteed to make sales because fanbois want their new shiny iPhone. Android users are much more reserved, IMO.
Android is an OS that works on smartphones.
iOS works on iPhones.
Android is available on numerous devices on numerous (all??) carriers.
iPhones? are available on ....... Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.....
So, we have Android being available to far more people in far more categories and iPhones available to those who can afford it. Can you even get an iPhone on pre-pay?
If you want to say Google is "wrong" for giving consumers choices, that's your opinion. If you want to say Apple is "right" or "better" for NOT having choices, that's your opinion. Now go drink your apple flavored kool-aid.
I think I'll put another ROM on my phone now.....You?

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Message 410 of 429 (639213)
10-28-2011 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by Huntard
10-28-2011 8:01 PM


Re: And another thing
article writes:
Finally, it’s worth noting that people outside the US have often had it even worse. For example, the Nexus One didn’t go on sale in Europe until 5 months after the US, the Droid/Milestone FroYo update happened over 7 months later there, and the Cliq never got updated at all outside of the US.

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