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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but until after eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil there was no way Adam could know that he should obey the God character in the story over the Eve character or the Serpent.
And in addition, what you quoted also supports the absurdity of Original Sin as marketed in many of today's chapters of Club Christian. Genesis 3 is very specific about what the punishment was for disobedience and there is no mention of any immediate death, of any spiritual separation, of any spiritual death, of any condemnation other than the specific ones listed in the story.
quote: There is simply no good Biblical support for Original sin but it is a great marketing tool for the Christian Snake Oil salesmen.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, I'm actually posting what t6he Bible says and in context, not quote mining for profit.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not at all. It seems that much of Christianity today is just a profitable way to move money from the pockets of folk like you to the preachers, pastors and bishops that start all the new chapters of Club Christian, and the marketing tool of "Original Sin", "being Born Again", "getting Saved" are the products that the Snake Oil Salesmen peddle.
It's a very profitable business with marvelous tax advantages, lots of legal protection and absolutely no product liability. That is the importance of "Original Sin" in Christianity today. It's a classic FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) product. Other than being yet another way to maintain the flow of gold coming in to the chapter Treasury and as a tool to keep the members in line, "Original Sin" is of absolutely no importance. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, people can behave poorly and people can behave well, but that is not "Original Sin"; it is what they do, not some inherited sin. Enough of this OLD Sin, let's have some NEW Sin.
And have you never listened to "Christian Radio" or watched a Televangelist? It is simply one advertisement after another, selling everything and anything including worthless stuff like "Original Sin", "are you Born Again?" and "Have you been Saved?".Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's comforting to be able to say that it's "sin nature" or "original sin" instead of having to say "it's my fault" isn't it,.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, looks like just more justification for behaving badly and that is one reason Christianity has been so successful.
It's easy finding excuses for not doing what is right, isn't it?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not quite.
I have absolutely no idea what "Original Discernment" would even mean. We all have the capability of knowing right from wrong, just as we all have the capability of walking or thinking or talking, but it is a capability that must be used, practiced, learned to be useful. If someone refuses to learn to walk, learn to talk, learn how to think then yes, they are responsible for the outcome.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, I know that your opinion is "No."
Yet you also claim "entitlement". Had your wealth and land and culture and language and traditions and beliefs been stolen from you by force would you not want and deserve compensation?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Did they benefit from the acts?
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's fun making up stories to justify your behavior, isn't it?
And that in a nutshell is the importance of "Original Sin". It is a handy justification for mankind not doing what it should do. Edited by jar, : No reason given.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's fun finding ways to justify your behavior, isn't it?
And that in a nutshell is the importance of "Original Sin". It is a handy justification for mankind not doing what it should do.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Besides being just a really silly comment, what does that have to do with the topic?
Also, I would imagine that the average Atheist is at least as moral as the average Christian and in most cases, likely more moral.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And that relates to the topic in what way?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian and so would most likely have held the Jewish position on the subject. In Judaism there is no concept comparable to the "Original Sin", "Once Saved" or "Born Again" products marketed in Christianity.
AbE: I also need to say that a statement like "Doing whats right and wrong means one has the mind of Christ." is just complete crap an of no informational content or value. Edited by jar, : see AbE:Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That has nothing to do with the topic, but do you honestly think that Jesus would support the robbers and not the robbed?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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