Catholicism versus Protestantism down the centuries

Here ya go, Vimesy. The Pope "apologized" for the "sins of its MEMBERS," THAT's the big fat lying fraud right there in the title of this article: The Inquisition and a whole bunch of other enormities in history that hardly anybody knows about were the work of the PAPACY itself directly in many cases, and the JESUITS as their main instrument of murder and manipulation.The Pope apologized for NOTHING and even tried to put the blame on Church members who for the most part haven't a clue about the crimes and murders and plots of the Vatican.Yet the world applauds this lying demonstration of "humility" and "repentance." What a travesty.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yeah, we know what you are trying to assert, it just doesn't carry much worth or relevance.Yes, we know that your beliefs differ from mine and I have no problem allowing you your beliefs even though at times they scare the shit out of me and seem a far greater threat to the US and civilization than any Muslim terrorist simply because they are totally unrelated to reality.I'm familiar with David A Plaisted but honestly to talk about a scholarly article from him is about as silly as thinking he is a historian or scientist. He is not someone who should be taken seriously in either area although he is worth a small chuckle or three.Your right he never produces ANY real numbers and just more unsupported supposition.

You are very naive about this ppoont of view.By the time of the Inquisition, the 1000 years were over and what was left was a Plitical entity that we cll a Teocracy.It is both wrong and unfair to confuse the theocratic political reaction to heresy, i.e.; treason, with the religious aspect of the RCC, especially what is now left of it.How is a Theocracy enforcing its political authority any different than what a Democracy does to traitors or what a Dictator or King does to rebels?????

The Pope doesn't owe an apology.If the pope's had not administered their offices by enforcing the "laws" of that Theocracy which the people from 380AD on had instituted they would have been derelict in the duties to which their form of government had authorized them to carry out.Does anyone of the seven (7) different kinds of Government tolerate a dissident movement that intends to undermine if not replace or emasculate its legal authority???Really?
Isn't America using the FBI and the CIA to infiltrate the Muslim community today because those people are suspect in trying to replace democracy with a theocracy?How is the USA acting any different when America is defending its right to govern, even to the point of war, invading Iraq and Afghanistan, one a Dictatorship and the other a formed Theocracy.If America loses, should the Imam leaders of the Theocracy which wins demand an apology from Obama for trying to keep this democracy in charge of the USA?????

I certainly hope not. If you have any evidence of that I hope you will present it since that would definitely be a violation of the Constitution.The only groups I know of that seem to be pushing for the US to become a Theocracy are some Protestant groups that seem to think their Christian beliefs should carry the force of law.

If he was a Historian he would or should have known that the people had insisted the leaders prevent heresy.This was the fact at the beginning of the 1000 year reign of the singular and only Christian church that had been made mandatory and exclusive over all the Roman World.Zech. 13:3 And it shall come to pass (for 1000 years of Universal Christianity), that when any shall yet prophesy, then (even his Catholic) father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD, (Christ): and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.Zech. 13:4 And it shall come to pass in that day, (throughout the whole of the Dark Ages), that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive: Zech. 13:5 But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.Zech. 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands, (Stigmata)?
Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

This explanation is pure sophistry. How can the Pope authorize the use of torture and then claim to simply be doing his duty when torture is carried out? Under this definition of non-culpability, any action can be justified as long as it furthers a legitimate aim of the state. There is no circumstance under which torturing someone until they recant is a justifiable activity.And in the US the government is required to tolerate speech and other actions that undermine its authority.

From an outsider's perspective, that's not so much a difference as a similarity.

Some of which appear to be spurious. That aside, I could present you with a similar list of quotes about the role of the Jews in history. Especially if I was allowed to make quotes up, which is apparently legitimate for conspiracy theorists. I hardly see how it would prove anything. Quotes are just people saying stuff.

There was no 1000 year reign of a single Christian church.

If Saddm had won, invaded and conquered America, Bush would have been on trial for the same supposd crimes that you of which accuse the Popes.It was their politically assigned job to maintain the Law set down in writing by Theo I, 380AD: i.e.; that all other religions except Christianity were illegal and the government was under the reign of a Theocracy.All seven (7) forms of Giovernment everywhere do essentially the same thing in order to enforce the powers inherent to the authority vested in that form of government.When the Rosenbergs were hanged for treason against the democrcy of America it was exactly the same legal procedure as the inquistion and punishment of dissidents against the Theocratic System.You are bias bcause you think a Papal theocracy is less worthy of ruling than a government which allows people to vote for two choices in candidates or maybe a King.every one of the seven types of Political Institutions enforces it authority with punishment.

Trolling behaviour but just too bonkers to ignore......I'm sure it's possible to categorise political systems into many groups but wiki tells me that there are in fact 3.Authoritarian
Monarchies
DemocraciesCatholic church would be in the first.

Anytime this guy posts he tries to line things up into 7 categories.I'm surprised he doesn't claim that we have 7 branches of government or that 7 layered salads have some sort of mystical significance.If he mentions 7, guaranteed he is not attempting to participate in the discussion but is trying to interject a numerological agenda and anything he says in the post can be ignored.

1. President
2. Vice President
3. Supreme Court
4. Courts of Appeals
5. District Courts
6. House of Representatives
7. SenateNext I'll list Baskin and Robbins seven ice cream flavors.The numerology is the least stupid part of the posts.For example: What kind of argument is this anyway? The Rosenbergs were executed for treason involving attempts to pass secrets to the Soviet Union, therefor Giordano Bruno's burning for disagreeing with the state on religious doctrine is excusable? What kind of state does this dude want to live in, anyway?Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Only 4 seasons in the year must be a real bummer for him.........