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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
More bullshit numerology that ignores the actual number of major mainstream and evangelical churches.
My source for enumerating 12 major mainstream denominational Christian churches and the seven Evangelical organizations which are counted among the multiplicity of smaller cults, the growing Hebrew-Christian believers, and the Moonies who are now worldwide and quite large is the World Almanac: Religion. I must point out that everything I post has a source.Albeit, the particular reader who opposes both me and my message neglects this and might personally denounce the credentials or significance of those sources, but that is all a matter of opinion on their part.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3522 days) Posts: 274 Joined:
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Everything you post does not have a source.
When you o provide a source, it either does not have anything to do with your claim or actually disputes your claim. For example, the World Amanac has focused on 12 major mainstream churches to give some statistics about religion, but it does not claim that there are only 12. It has simply elected to focus on 12. That is a fundamental difference from your claim that there ARE only 12 major denominations. There are more. To add to your abuse of data, you also have stated that the World Almanac is a source for your claim that there are 7 Evangelical organizations. That is a lie. Everything you post has a false appeal to authority.But you aren't actually sourcing anything. All your bullshit stems from you.
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The Bible simply contradicts itself on this matter. Some parts say you just need faith and some parts say that you have to do works.
I disagree about the contradiction part. The bible is referring to different circumstances. You just made that up and provided no reasons why I should believe you. Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given. Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
That is a fundamental difference from your claim that there ARE only 12 major denominations. There are more.
?..."only"... That word was not used as you can note below.AND, if your reading comprehension was better, you could see that I mention the innumerable smaller cults that co-exist. "My source for enumerating 12 major mainstream denominational Christian churches and the seven Evangelical organizations which are counted among the multiplicity of smaller cults, the growing Hebrew-Christian believers, and the Moonies who are now worldwide and quite large is the World Almanac: Religion." Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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You just made that up and provided no reasons why I should believe you.
That was just an example of the basic principle of Biblical inerrancy.
Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
You just made that up and provided no reasons why I should believe you.
How is providing reasons any different since you have rejected what I tell even then, don't you? Let me prostrate an idea before you perchance you shall see the point satisfactorily: Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil, (that animus of the anti-Christ: [Jhn 8:44]), shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have (at the hand of Nero) tribulation Ten Years (as will also be instigated by Diocletian [303-313 AD]):
...be thou faithful unto (a martyr's) death,... .... and I will give thee a crown of (Historical sociological) life, (in 1000 years of Universal Roman Christianity that now reigns from 54AD thru 1054AD). Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
That's the only way it can be done. Or, more precisely, that is the only way it can be done short of admitting that the Bible is not inerrant.
My exprience has shown that people will never change the position they dug their heels into, because of Ego and human nature. What you say above is that when you do get a explanation, the subjective and personally opportunity to dismiss it by claiming it is just stuff made up because you never thought of it that way before. But you might be the exact type of non-believer as to fault the YECs who are inmovable on fundamentalism that is patently and scientifically wrong.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
tribulation Ten Years (as will also be instigated by Diocletian [303-313 AD])
You really need to do some research yourself. I don't know where you get this crap but it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. Diocletian did persecute christians starting in 303 CE, but Galerius rescinded the edicts in 311 CE. That is eight years not 10. Care to try again?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3522 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
kofh2u writes: I think it does have the very quintessence of what it has to do with the differences among all the twelve major mainstream denominational churches and the seven Evangelical organizations which compose the basic membership of 2 billion professing Christians, If it is not your position that there are only 12 major mainstream denominational churches, then why did you say "all" here? Why did you say that the Christian membership is represented in only 12? My reading comprehension is just fine. Don't blame your incompetence and backpedaling on me. My contention is not on the smaller cults, but on the claim that there are specifically 12 MAJOR denominations. Do you acknowledge that there are more than 12 MAJOR denominations? In the case that you don't, the use of "only" is 100% correct. Don't try a semantical argument with me. I will destroy you. Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3522 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Project much?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
kofh2u writes: I think it does have the very quintessence of what it has to do with the differences among all the twelve major mainstream denominational churches and the seven Evangelical organizations which compose the basic membership of 2 billion professing Christians, eli;If it is not your position that there are only 12 major mainstream denominational churches, then why did you say "all" here? Why did you say that the Christian membership is represented in only 12? You STILL can't read a sentence and comprehend what is stated.
"only" isn't mentioned, and the sentence specifically say "all of the major churches" as listed as such in the World Almanac. You are really responding with lame nonsense. Next you'll be reduced to attacking the messenger with ad homins
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Eli Member (Idle past 3522 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
It's YOUR message, bro.
It comes from YOU. No one sent you to tell us the things that pop into your little head. That is your choice to lie and made up data, so yes, you deserve what you get. Now, answer the question with a simple "yes" or "no" and stop dodging my point. Are there more than 12 major denominations? or are there ONLY 12? Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3522 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Is there a reason you refuse to answer this question?
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You just made that up and provided no reasons why I should believe you.
How is providing reasons any different since you have rejected what I tell even then, don't you? What? That don't make no sense. If you say something that is correct, then I won't reject it. If I'm not sure if its correct or not, but you provide good reasons to accept that it is, then I won't reject it.
Let me prostrate an idea before you perchance you shall see the point satisfactorily :Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil, (that animus of the anti-Christ: [Jhn 8:44]), shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have (at the hand of Nero) tribulation Ten Years (as will also be instigated by Diocletian [303-313 AD]):
...be thou faithful unto (a martyr's) death,... .... and I will give thee a crown of (Historical sociological) life, (in 1000 years of Universal Roman Christianity that now reigns from 54AD thru 1054AD). I'm not seeing the point.
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My exprience has shown that people will never change the position they dug their heels into, because of Ego and human nature. The trick is to not dig your heals in at all; honestly questions things with open minded skepticism. But you won't... In Message 43 you wrote:
quote: So there you go; heels firmly dug in. You'll never change that position, will you? That pretty much eliminates any point to us debating you.
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