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The Revenge of Reason
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Message 11 of 152 (67074)
11-17-2003 12:38 PM


I think the cut and dry proof for the flood account would come from accounts of the flood from other civilizations. What did the Egyptians say of it? How about the Yao Dynasty of China? There were other civilizations too, but none of these civilizations seem to have noticed.
Anyway, to add a couple for Apostle:
1)Jehoiachin’s Age
(2 CHR 36:9) Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began his reign
(2 KNGS 24:8) Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began his reign
2)1,700 or 7,000 Horsemen
(2 Samuel 8:4, 1 Chronicles 18:4) Samuel says that David captured 1,700 horsemen and Chronicles says he captured 7,000 in the exact same battle.
3)40,000 or 4,000 stalls
(1 Kings 4:26, 2 Chronicles 9:25) Kings says that Solomon had 40,000 stalls and Chronicles says he had 4,000 stalls.
Here are 3 errors that there are no way around, except to admit that an error was made in the writting/organization of the Bible. Someone made mistakes here, either the "God inspired original writters" or the "God inspired organizers/redactors". You pick!

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Message 23 of 152 (67479)
11-18-2003 4:18 PM


Keith,I was only providing examples that there are in fact errors in the Bible. As the whole point of this thread was for Apostle to show that the 'BIBLE CANNOT ERR'.
You yourself state, "These are obvious translation errors. That doesn't distract from the true meaning of the text any more than a spelling error would distract from yours." And I agree these are obvious errors of one form or another (and personally I agree with you that they are probably translation errors). However they illustrate my point perfectly, the Bible does contain errors. The problem is that God does not make errors.
As far as any paper I write having a spelling error that would be fine, as I am not claiming to be God, nor have I ever written anything down that claimed to be the Word of God. And I make errors all the time.

  
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Message 45 of 152 (68048)
11-20-2003 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by w_fortenberry
11-20-2003 11:44 AM


Fortenberry you said:
Answers to all three of these can be found in the recently published book Those So Called Errors, but I have presented the results of an independent study of Jehoiachin's age here.
So your study showed that Jehoiachin began his reign when he was 18, therefore 2 CHR 36:9 is an error, for it says nothing of any co-regancy. And it doesn't matter what the book says. The fact is that the Bible plainly contradicts itself, period. No way around it, one of the two passages on either subject must be in error. More likely both verses are errors.

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Message 114 of 152 (71022)
12-04-2003 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Apostle
12-02-2003 12:38 AM


I already did that, I gave you 3 examples of errors found in the Bible. You agreed that they were in fact errors. They prove to us that the Bible you and I hold in our hands today is not the error free word of God.

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Message 123 of 152 (71195)
12-05-2003 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by Apostle
12-04-2003 11:06 PM


Re: Copying Errors Does Not Deny Biblical Inerrency
You requested errors found in the Bible. I produced 3 and provided enough proof that you agreed they were errors. You are now stating they are copyist errors. First, how does this make them any less an error? Second, where is your proof that these are copyiest errors and not some other kind of error? I provided proof of my statement, now I am asking for proof of yours.

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