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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I.e. Faith is God. Anything said against her is against God.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Only God could be sure of either of those claims. Must be fascinating to know the Mind of God as intimately as you do.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Wow. You really believe that you know the Mind of God. Extremely humble of you.
Bet you're Napoleon, too.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Claiming to know the Mind of a Being so far beyond our comprehension? Yeah, easy.
And you're Julius Caeser too.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What, you want me to say I don't understand ALL of God's Mind?. Would that make you happy? That would be a start. Acting as if you don't understand ALL of God's Mind would be the next step. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Went right over your head, hum? The sterotypical sign of a hopeless loony is thinking he/she is Julius Ceaser or Napoleon.
All Bible believers have access to a part of God's Mind. All people who study the real world and follow the evidence where it leads have access to another part of God's mind. Anyone who claims to know that someone else "hates God" or will burn in Hell (especially when that person's only sin that you know of is disagreeing with you) is claiming to know God's judgement. that would require knowing all of God's mind.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If the shoe fits...
As I wrote, if you start acting as if you don't know all of God's mindyou wouldn't seem to be such a wackjob.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
People can of course twist the Bible but it's not really all that hard to understand most of it if you approach it honestly. And that's why everyone agrees on exactly what the Bible says. I guess that anyone who disagrees with you is ipso facto dishonest. That's Christian humility in action!
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
1. Southern Baptist Convention: 16.2 million members
2. The United Methodist Church: 7.8 million members 3. The Church of God in Christ: 5.5 million members 4. National Baptist Convention: 5.0 million members 5. Evangelical Lutheran Church, U.S.A.: 4.5 million members 6. National Baptist Convention of America: 3.5 million members 7. Assemblies of God: 2.9 million members 8. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.): 2.8 million members 9. African Methodist Episcopal Church: 2.5 million members 10. National Missionary Baptist Convention of America: 2.5 million members 11. The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LCMS): 2.3 million members 12. The Episcopal Church: 2.0 million members 13. Churches of Christ: 1.6 million members 14. Pentecostal Assemblies of the World: 1.5 million members 15. The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church: 1.4 million members And that's just the big ones in the U.S. Denomination Names lists 5,000. And, of course, Faith is familiar with the beliefs of each and every one, so she knows exactly where they differ. Riiiigggghhhht! [/Cosby]
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Yes, three or four divided on minor points. No, fifteen major divisions is not three or four. Neither is 5,000. And we haven't seen any evidence that their divisions are minor. I'd especially pick Southern Baptists vs. Episcopalians.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Nobody, especially God, cares who you count as Christian. You can certainly note your opinion of whether certain people or groups are exhibiting un-Christian behavior, but God is the only one who Judges. Such judgement isn't your purview. Unless a church explicitly denies a core concept of the Christian faith it's a Christian church. There aren't that many core concepts: Jesus' death and resurrection and a few more. Certainly nobody is required to pledge not to serve homosexuals as a condition of joining a Christian church.
Anyone who disagrees with your peculiar interpretation (and interpretation it is) of the Bible is not necessary not a Christian. Certainly disagreeing with your fallible interpretation, no matter how often you claim infallibility in interpreting the Bible, is not grounds for dismissing entire congregations. Still I haven't seen any evidence of what the differences are (since it's obvious you have no idea what they are), much less that they are "minor". I note that there are several Christian (yes, Christian, no matter what your fallible opinion is) support or do not oppose gay marriage: Blessing of same-sex unions in Christian churches including Lutherans, and the United Church of Christ and the Evangelical Free Church of America. Ther's pleny more. Who is or is not Christian is not your call and your arrogance in claiming that right is exceptionally offensive. Ditto for your unjustified and un-Christian pride in not acknowledging that you could be wrong when you interpret a translation of original Bible texts. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Sorry but there is no biblical way to support gay marriage. Says the arrogant, prideful, and fallible Faith. Other Christians disagree with you, and they are Christians no matter what you think.
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