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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 133 of 152 (74376)
12-19-2003 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by Apostle
12-18-2003 12:33 AM


Re: Copying Errors Does Not Deny Biblical Inerrency
Apostle : The m.o. of atheists is to deflect away from the argument when they are percieved to lose advantage. You should respond one time when insult is initiated and then ignore them.
Atheists assume the Bible a myth, this is their starting position of bias and there is nothing wrong with it except when they deny it and claim some silly objectivety that doesn't exist. Everyone has an ax to grind regardless of what they claim.
Remember this: It is impossible for someone who does not believe in the existence of miracles to be objective concerning the Bible which records a lot of miracles. Christianity begins with the claim of a miracle - the Resurrection of Christ. Do you think an atheist would ever entertain the evidence of this miracle for even an hour ? Their mind is made up and they use every ounce of energy they have denying anything that contradicts their starting assumptions.
I like reading your posts, stay focused and know when to ignore those who sidetrack the debate with cheap shots of insult.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 137 of 152 (74387)
12-19-2003 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by doctrbill
12-19-2003 10:49 PM


Thank you for your candid words. My post was intended as a "if the shoe fits " kind of thing. After reading what you said then my post does not apply to you.
And yes of course I have an ax to grind !!!

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 138 of 152 (74389)
12-19-2003 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by sidelined
12-19-2003 11:15 PM


Yes I wrote that to you - this is not in dispute.
What you conveniently omit is the resaon why I wrote that.
Don't you remember that it was you who first sat in anonymous land and branded a man with a Ph.D. to be a bullshitter. You should be ashamed.
You never said anything else, like attack the content of his teaching or views.
I called you on it and you are more concernred with your bruised ego than with the fact that you slandered a man with a Ph.D. to be a bullshitter.
None of Dr.Scott's worst critics have ever done what you did.
For the Record : Dr. Scott says the professors that taught him and graduated him to get his Ph.D. were all atheists. He calls them "men of renown....men who had more integrity in the tip of their little finger than all of the christians he has ever met...."
You got what you deserved for initiating astronomical cowardice.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 139 of 152 (74447)
12-20-2003 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by ConsequentAtheist
12-19-2003 10:18 PM


Re: Copying Errors Does Not Deny Biblical Inerrency
I am not afraid to admit that I do not know the answer nor do I know what you are even asking.
Are you going to tell us ? And will you do it in plain english ?

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 142 of 152 (74620)
12-21-2003 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by sidelined
12-21-2003 2:29 AM


I never got pissed off when you asked about "those " words.
I plainly told you where I heard them and the context of which they were used. I never knew the words were unknown and when Dr.Scott used them he immediately explained what they meant. The cancer researcher example was what he said as an example to explain there meaning. I honestly do not know the exact origin of the words. And by no means did I say Dr.Scott coined them, and I am not accusing you of saying that he did. Dr.Scott used those words in the context I already said.
It is just plain hateful and to use this minor controversy as a platform to arbitrarily brand a man with a Ph.D. to be a bullshitter.
You obviously detected that I respect Dr.Scott very much, seeing this you proceeded to say something that hurts. You have hero's whether you admit it or not. Everyone does. I bet your daughters are hero's to you whether you admit it or not.
Rhetorically speaking; how does the use of words that cannot be found on the internet make Dr.Scott a bullshitter ? Is it not logical to give a Ph.D. the benefit of any doubt ?
What Dr.Scott's worst critics cannot accept is how a man with a Ph.D. from Stanford could be a creationist/christian. The two just don't jive. He concluded that Jesus rose based upon the evidence. This is the only reason.
That alumni association that you mentioned -`Dr.Scott has graced the cover of their magazine. You will discover that he enjoys a wide spectrum of respect from every walk of life.
I ultimately would like you to`prove what you say he is making up, and it is just plain chicken shit to say what you said without providing a lick of evidence.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 148 of 152 (74729)
12-22-2003 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by sidelined
12-22-2003 7:45 AM


There, you now have explained your basis for not liking Dr.Scott. Too bad you couldn't of done this in the beginning.
Even though this is off topic - what is the source and basis for your beliefs concerning God ?
If not, I will consider this exchange closed, unless we pick it up in another appropriate topic.

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