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Author Topic:   Why is the President Lying ... again?
Dr Jack
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Message 55 of 103 (147477)
10-05-2004 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by RAZD
10-05-2004 11:51 AM


Re: who needs mental testing?
All politicians are liars.

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Dr Jack
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Message 58 of 103 (147483)
10-05-2004 12:07 PM
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10-05-2004 12:03 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
By your logic, voting is choosing to be lied to it.
I don't care that politicians lie; everybody lies - I lie, you lie, your mother's brother lies, your boss lies, your friends lie and all your co-workers lie.
Get over it.

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Dr Jack
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Message 61 of 103 (147489)
10-05-2004 12:14 PM
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10-05-2004 12:11 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
Which would you rather have: a competent politician who lies, or an incompetent politician who always tells the truth?
Actually, thinking about it, I don't think "always tells the truth" is a positive trait in a politician - these people do have to function as diplomats after all.

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Dr Jack
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Message 68 of 103 (147505)
10-05-2004 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Dan Carroll
10-05-2004 12:19 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
How is that question relevant? What we have is none of the above: an incompetent politician who lies.
Yes, that's what you have. We, on the other hand, have a competent politican who lies - and I'd rather keep he stayed than let the other monkeys run the country.
The relevance is quite simple: lying is not a cardinal sin in a politician. Bush has failed on so many actual, real policy fronts and yet RAZD is harping on about a trivial issue of truth. Why not criticise him for his failure to run the economy properly? Why not fret about his squandering of international good will? Or his dangerous approach to international law? How about his dismal record on human rights and civil liberties? Or the environment? How about his undermining of the constitutional checks and balances of American politics?
Lying is a trivial side issue; failing to competently run a country is not.

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